seems like the ‘safe’ public opinion is ‘we stand behind israel’ and the left opinion is palestinian support

i don’t live there i don’t have any particular interest or fascination with the region i don’t understand any of this pls don’t yell at me

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    Hahahahahahaha, what??? Proximity to a prison doesnt make it a military target. They would have fucked up just as bad if they attacked the prison. Civilians are still civilians even when you disagree with how they spend their time. Unless you think the bombing of hiroshima was justified?

    You were already given an answer. Repeating the question means I will repeat my answer. If you dont understand how the global stage is now a part of armed warfare, you are behind every armed force on the planet.

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      You were already given an answer.

      Ok, you answered that guerilla tactics would be best.

      Any guerrilla struggle involves harm (even if accidental) to civilian populations.

      If we agree that Palestinians have a right to armed struggle, and agree that they should use guerrilla tactics, why are you not supporting them?

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        Because that was not a guerrilla tactical strike? Nor was it accidental? It was a war crime.

        They intentionally targeted civilian gatherings. Thats not armed struggle, thats cold blood killing.

        Are you claiming the US was justified in its atomic bombing of hiroshima? By your given criteria, it also falls under armed struggle. Do you not believe it was a war crime?

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          Are you claiming the US was justified in its atomic bombing of hiroshima? By your given criteria, it also falls under armed struggle.

          I do consider it a war crime, I used it as an example because that’s not common in Western spaces.

          I’ll be happy to concede to you that the attack on the music festival was reprehensible, if you can concede that the Palestinian attacks on military installations were appropriate and called for.

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            Are you, like… stupid?

            My stance from the beginning was always that palestinian attacks on israeli military installations is justified. Theyre being invaded. The problem is hamas commited a war crime that gave israel the justification to begin unquestioned and uncovered genocide.

            Could you get your head out of your ass and stop trying to justify war crimes in your slobbering hunger to see the shadow of a drop of isreali blood? Youre continuing hamas’s work of making israel look good, and palestine doesnt need more enemies.

            You called a music festival a non neutral event, for fucks sake. Are you trying to demonize palestine? Is that your goal?

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              Are you, like… stupid?

              A little, yeah.

              My stance from the beginning was always that palestinian attacks on israeli military installations is justified. Theyre being invaded. The problem is hamas commited a war crime that gave israel the justification to begin unquestioned and uncovered genocide.

              I didn’t see your support for Hamas’ actions in this thread, sorry if I missed it.

              The zionist entity is constantly commiting war crimes. I don’t think it needs an excuse.

              Could you get your head out of your ass and stop trying to justify war crimes in your slobbering hunger to see the shadow of a drop of isreali blood? Youre continuing hamas’s work of making israel look good, and palestine doesnt need more enemies.

              I don’t think the zionists constantly bombing children makes them look good.

              You called a music festival a non neutral event, for fucks sake.

              I don’t agree that it was a neutral event, but I’m happy to concede it as wrong for the sake of the argument here.

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                Oh gross are you just an antisemite?

                Israel as a nation is the problem, not jews bud. Get a life

                People like you are the reason israel is going to win, and I weep for your palestinian victims

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                  Oh gross are you just an antisemite?

                  No, I am not. I have not said anything antisemitic, and will not.

                  Israel as a nation is the problem, not jews bud. Get a life.

                  I agree that settler-colonialism, as represented by Zionism, is the problem. Judaism is not synonymous with the zionist project.

                  I’m happy to see that we’ve wound down your arguments to where you’re grasping at straws and making up things to argue against.

                  People like you are the reason israel is going to win,

                  We’ll see.

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                    Zionist has been an antisemetic buzz word for almost a century, bud, but it does explain why you were so happy to see the music festival victims.

                    And why you seem so keen on hamas, despite their recent announcements of goals which include a racial jewish clensing.

                    Sucks that you are using palestine as an excuse for your garbage. Normal folk are upset at civilian death.