• Doctor_Satan@lemmy.world
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    That’s the default setting for Democrats in every situation, until there’s a whiff of class solidarity in the air. Then the Democrats suddenly become the most powerful force imaginable, able to tank campaigns and careers with a phone call.

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    The longer I’ve watched democrats and republicans function, the more it looks like Republicans are the bus that Democrats are throwing America under.

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    Fucking Christ! You don’t have leverage? Withholding your fucking votes is leverage! Let it shut down.

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      Yeah it’s Trump’s fault if it shuts down too. They always blame the president so I don’t see the issue. Also the government has been doing horrible things lately so it should be shutdown for as long as possible. Maybe 4 years

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    I’ve had enough of this “you can’t blame democrats for what Republicans are doing.” They’ve set up and maintained a system where they’re the only people who can push back on the fascists, and now that the time has come they’re refusing to stand up, and keeping anyone else from standing up.

    They’re not just incompetent, they’re complicit. The billionaires and Republicans are our Nazis, and the Democrat leadership are our Vichy France.

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      Don’t worry both sides are not the same though so you can take that to the bank, not the same bank that the democrats are cashing their corporate checks in though because that would be unseemly.

      I am only half kidding, maybe a quarter kidding.

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        If you can watch what’s been going on for the past two months, and still believe this both sides bullshit, then you’re a fucking idiot.

        Are Democrats corporate stooges and feckless cowards? Yeah most of them.

        But this is next level. You’re insane if you think it would be anything like this had Harris won.

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          Are Democrats corporate stooges and feckless cowards? Yeah most of them.

          And from a functional standpoint, that means no meaningful opposition.

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          I’m not an advocate for “Both sides are the same” but I am an advocate for “Democrats are failing to meet the moment and we should fire the whole leadership.”

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      For real, all last year they were telling us that democracy itself is at risk, but now that it’s actually collapsing they’re proceeding with business as usual?

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    Two things you’ll never lose money on…the depth of GOP inhumanity…and the DNC inability to even pretend to fight

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      “The conversation today was divided. I can’t say we have a strategy,” said a Democratic senator who requested anonymity…”

      🤬🤡💩☠️

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        Well, yes, although that sounds like asking people to safely dispose of their lit cigarette butts when the forest fire is raging. Of course it’s going to sound ridiculous now.

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          Well, yes, although that sounds like asking people to safely dispose of their lit cigarette butts when the forest fire is raging.

          We need firefighters. We didn’t have the option to elect any.

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            So we allowed the arsonist to get the position when we could have had someone who was at worst ineffective.

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              So we allowed the arsonist to get the position

              Yes, centrists absolutely did. You had the chance to protect democracy, but the filibuster was more important. So now instead of introspection, you blame the progressives you hate even more than the idea of living Palestinians.

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                You’re making a lot of assumptions here. I don’t even know what you think you are arguing against.

                You seemed to be arguing for not voting or voting third party rather than voting for Harris with the whole “firefighters” analogy.

                I was pointing out that by many not voting, or by voting third party, we’ve ended up with someone who is not only not a firefighter, to continue you analogy, but someone who is actively setting the fires.

                Now I hate democracy and progressives and Palestinians apparently? You’ve broken the thread here.

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                  You seemed to be arguing for not voting or voting third party rather than voting for Harris with the whole “firefighters” analogy.

                  That is the assumption from centrists every time someone wants them to be better, yes.

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    Brave Sir Robin ran away. Bravely ran away away.  When danger reared it’s ugly head, He bravely turned his tail and fled.

    Yes, brave Sir Robin turned about  And gallantly he chickened out. Swiftly taking to his feet, He beat a very brave retreat.  Bravest of the braaaave, Sir Robin!

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    “Democrats appear ready to back down”

    In other news, today happens to be a day that ends with the letter “Y.”

    Tune in again for more things that happen every single day to no surprise!

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    The lawmaker said Democrats are worried they would get the blame for a shutdown if they voted to defeat the House bill. The House is out of session for the rest of the week, upping the pressure on Senate Democrats.

    Voters haven’t punished Republicans for their numerous shut downs. But that said, voters are always more likely to blame Democrats for anything at all.

    In the article there are definitely some interesting points. Like how Elon would probably use the shut down to fire even more people. Or Trump would use it to take even more power from Congress.

    I still think the Democrats need to stand firm and refuse to vote for it, make Republicans pass it via reconciliation. Shut it down if necessary. But there’s definitely a lot of possibly terrible outcomes to a shut down to consider.

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      The Republicans literally control the entire government. Everything that is happening is their fault and if the Democrats feel like that won’t be the case they suck at their fucking job.

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        They don’t control the entire government in this context. That’s why they need Democrat votes.

        As for fault: the spending bill is in itself reasonable. Refusing to vote for it may be the optimal strategy (I don’t know) but it doesn’t look great.

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    Of course they are.

    And, of course they will.

    Feckless spineless wimps that they are.

    🤡 🤦‍♀️ 🖕