• jimmy90@lemmy.world
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    13 hours ago

    you really can’t get it into your head that the jews lived there for thousands of years and still lived there at the beginning of this century

    you’re so antisemitic

    they are not colonisers

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      12 hours ago

      you really can’t get it into your head that the jews lived there for thousands of years and still lived there at the beginning of this century you’re so antisemitic

      I, nor Palestinians have any problems with Jewish people living in Palestine. You continue to conflate Jewish people in general with Zionists. The problem is with the Settler Colonialism, the cornerstone of Zionism. Read the book by Nur Masalha, which details the history of Palestine in the past 4000 years.

      they are not colonisers

      You can’t be fucking serious. Zionism was explicitly started as a settler Colonialist project. It began with settlements that displaced Palestinians, it has never stopped settling and displacing Palestinians, neither within Israel prior to 1967 or the West Bank after 1967. Which you would have picked up if you engaged with the damn sources instead of acting confidently incorrect because you’re terrified that you may be wrong.

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        2 hours ago

        come now you can’t fool me

        it’s obvious that anyone against your palestinian cause immediately becomes a zionist and genocider

        including surely all the jews living in palestine in the early 20th century and any jew or other human even vaguely supporting them including myself

        how can a settler colonialist project be started by natives

        the problem is you’re antisemitic and pro the genicidal philospphy that the arabs have had for over 100 years

        it’s only now that the attacks on israel have made the situation so bad that peace is even considered

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          1 hour ago

          Read the books and watch the videos if you’re so interested. I’m done talking with you. You ignore every source provided. You are either a troll or so willfully ignorant that you can’t bring yourself to take a serious look at the sources that contradict your personal world view.

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            1 hour ago

            i’m confident the neither of us trust each-others sources

            the only way forward to peace is to agree on a shared reality of the region’s history and work from there

            i hope you can deprogram your fundamentalist left-wing fantasies soon

            best of luck

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              54 minutes ago

              You’re one source is Benny Morris, which I’ve already read and cross referenced with numerous other historians. You haven’t read a single book I mentioned. Don’t trust, verify. If you’re so confident, go ahead and try to prove yourself wrong. It’s all readily available, you can find all the books mentioned on Anna’s Archive for free, but you won’t.

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                22 minutes ago

                you’re very keen on sources i notice, i guess it lends itself to a air of arcane legitimacy

                but sources don’t matter to the obvious paradox i’ve been highlighting that you’ve studiously been ignoring

                i think the jews are native to the land of palestine whereas you think they are zionist colonial genocidal invaders

                by the way when egypt jordan et al invaded were they being arabic colonial empirical invaders or just good buddies to their arab chums?