The author was trying to shield themselves from the despair of political doomscrolling by reading books, but was dismayed to learn of Trump’s plans to declare a national emergency and use the military to carry out mass deportations of undocumented immigrants. The author speaks with anti-imperialist veteran friends who remind them that this is not the first time Trump has threatened to deploy the military against immigrants, and that actually carrying out such a plan would be a logistical and legal nightmare, requiring a massive expansion of the prison system at immense cost. The author argues that the only reasonable response for active-duty soldiers is to refuse to carry out these immoral orders, drawing parallels to the G.I. resistance during the Vietnam War. They advocate reviving networks of support like “G.I. coffeehouses” to provide a space for soldiers to organize and resist. Experts emphasize that troops have a moral responsibility to disobey illegal and immoral orders, and that immigrants are not the true enemy - it is the ruling class elite who are stealing from the working class. The author acknowledges the impulse to retreat into escapism, but argues that now is the time to collectively challenge these dangerous policies.
Y’all always getting the enlisted men mixed up with the officers. They are not the same. The officers, from the top down, will not go for this.
Been saying since the first Trump admin, he will eventually enlist civilian bully-boys for the task. Red Shirts if you will. It’s obvious the military brass won’t go along. It’s obvious there’s not enough state or local officers, of any kind, to do this.
And lookee here! Steve Bannon’s already saying the obvious and talking about enlisting “local help”. Perhaps we shall call them Committees of Public Safety?
More likely is that all the business owners employing undocumented immigrants will whine about it — like has happened in Florida and Texas whenever their legislatures are on the verge of passing some law that would take away their cheap labor.
Alternative headline: Why It Will Definitely Happen
This is exactly why it will unfortunately work. You go to far too many doctors dentist whatever’s offices. You will see Fox News or worse. Even at the VA you’ll see Fox News etc. When it comes to the officer core and career military people you might see some push back. But most of the enlisted will be on board for this day one sadly.
Its amazing how much propaganda Americans are exposed to on a dailly basis.
Hollywood basically a propaganda machine that always paints the US as a superior power.
News agencies at all levels repeating the same stories from a predefined script.
It’s funny how some Americans straight up deny the existence of any propaganda while there’s so many fucking movies of American Snipers and Colonel Badasses and whatnot.
Like if those movies were equally realistic as they are now (movies require some flair I’m not above sometimes enjoying a nice American war movie, propaganda or not), but depicted like, Russian or Chinese soldiers instead of American ones, they’d seem ridiculous. But as they depict American heroes, people don’t see them that way as much.
They’re not unique but yes absolutely. They can wake up in the morning to the Sinclair local TV news propaganda. Listen to AM radio propaganda on their way to work. And come home to unwind to Fox News and oan propaganda in the evening they can basically go a whole entire day without contact with the truth.
You are absolutely correct, the USA is not unique in this regard. Its difficult to spot propaganda when living inside the bubble
This channel looks kinda sus but the clip is just a re-post and highly relevant. https://youtu.be/KFyxDKw6DZc
There will certainly be commanders who resist if they think it’s unlawful. We may just need to wait to really see. I hope there will be resistance.
It’s a potentially comforting thought. Until you realize. That those are the people Republicans are targeting at the behest of trump. He had babysitters in his first term. It’s time he’s going to get his loyal Hitler generals. And he will Purge both of the military and the civilians bureaucrats from their offices in order to install loyal sycophants.
They haven’t forgotten their training. Militias may become a thing.
Cool. They can fight the pre-existing militias that have been organizing against us for the last 50 years.
Those commanders will be replaced
It is really not easy to just replace commanders
The end game of this would be a military coup of the US government which is probably not the worst thing that could happen. Sadly i am not confident that the soldiers have the balls to do it.
I mean maybe not the worst but pretty fucking bad I’d say. Look at Egypt. Just because your enemy is in power doesn’t mean a military junta would be better.
If your population cant agree on whether they should build concentration camps or not, then i think they need a bit of civil war as a treat. Nah but really it cant go on like this, they need some big change and that wont happen without some big conflict.
You mean if someone reminded them that they could be court-martialed and imprisoned for violating Posse Comitatus?
“I’ll be pardoned”
Who gets to say what is illegal or immoral though? Seems denying an illegal genocide has it’s consequences.
The law says what’s illegal.
Morals tell you what isn’t.
I have no clue how you arrived at the second sentence.
If you condition your soldiers to accept the illegal acts of others, then it is psychologically easier for them to conduct illegal themselves.
And other concepts of evil.
