• ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
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    First of all, capitalism is very obviously the model of relations in majority of Global South countries such a Brazil, India, Colombia and many others. The fact that you can’t even name these countries says volumes.

    However, whether these countries are capitalist or not is missing the point entirely. The reason Global South is poor has to do with the western capitalist empire having colonized these countries and continuing to brutally exploit them by stealing labour and resources out of these countries to prop up western lifestyle. The two books I linked in the post details the atrocities the west has committed against these countries in the name of capitalism.

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      India and Colombia are both in the northern hemisphere. Anyway, they’re not exactly enthusiastic capitalists.

      Western empires weren’t even really capitalist at the point that they colonized Colombia or India. And they’ve been gone for ages (nearly a century in India, much more for Colombia)…you think the wealth of the US, Europe, Australia, Canada, Singapore, South Korea, Japan, etc, are all being extracted somehow from India and Colombia and the rest of the Global South? By what mechanism? They don’t export a lot aside from raw materials, and even there they’re not exactly top of the list. So…how are capitalist countries living on extracted labor and resources? Are they piped through secret underground pipelines?

      Bad things happened in the past. Some continue to happen. That’s true. Doesn’t change the fact that communism is a stupid system.

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        Go read the link I gave you explaining the definition of Global South, it’s not based solely on the hemisphere. We’re also talking about colonialism that’s happening today not some ancient history. However, much of the colonialism absolutely did initially happen under capitalism. The British empire being one of the biggest colonialist projects in history.

        Maybe spend the time to minimally educate yourself on the subject you’re attempting to debate here instead of opnining about things you very clearly don’t have any clue about?

        The fact that you think communism is a stupid system is really just the cherry on top.

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          Careful! By including more of the world in the Global South, you’re gonna start seeing more and more thriving capitalist countries, which kinda underlines my initial point.

          You know that Hong Kong (occupied by the evil British!) provided the inspiration for Deng Xiaoping’s U-turn? Now it’s a joke to call China communist, and it’s GDP per capita looks like this

          Yes, Britain is capitalist these days. No, it was not a modern capitalist society in the 1700s–or at least, it was only just emerging. India was given to the East India Company by edict of the King.

          Maybe spend the time to minimally educate yourself on the subject you’re attempting to debate here instead of opining about things you very clearly don’t have any clue about? The fact that you think communism could ever work in the real world is just the cherry on top.

          • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
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            China is not a capitalist country, and the only joke here is that you think it’s not communist. One simple test that shows how wrong you are is to compare how China and India developed with India going the actual capitalist route. China also doesn’t suffer from the economic crashes that happen every decade under capitalism. If you actually want to educate yourself then you should watch this informative video about China https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BT7Th2aV0wM

            Maybe spend the time to minimally educate yourself on the subject you’re attempting to debate here instead of opining about things you very clearly don’t have any clue about? The fact that you think communism could ever work in the real world is just the cherry on top.

            You’re like a poster child for the Dunning-Kruger syndrome here.