• UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml
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    22 hours ago

    They only need to allow equal and fair access to elections to 3rd parties in blue states. They can be blue conservatives much as they want so long as the people have options.

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      22 hours ago

      That is the fastest way to turn a blue state red.

      Split the vote so that the minority Republican vote can win. Because there are more registered Republicans in California than in Texas.

      No, the actual answer is to change the voting system to a Cardinal system, so that there are no such things as Spoiler party’s or split votes.

      Approval or STAR are the answer. Either would enable third parties to exist and thrive.

      As a note RCV is not a Cardinal system, and still has the Spoiler Effect. People lie about it saying it’s the fix for all problems, but it’s actually worse than what we have (there are parts that are better, but more parts that are far worse)

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        20 hours ago

        Could you elaborate or provide a link to some further reading about how RCV is worse than first past the post? I haven’t heard this before and would like to learn more.

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          33 minutes ago

          These folks have a good breakdown of RCV’s flaws. https://www.equal.vote/rcv_v_star

          A lot of it boils down to how RCV is just a series of First Past the Post elections on the same ballot. This means that it can never really rise above FPtP.

          Fun fact that the site I provided gets wrong, RCV isn’t actually 150 years old, it’s actually a bit older. The Marquis de Condorcet actually came up with the idea in the 1790s, but abandoned it because of its flaws.

          If you want some unrelated reading, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marquis_de_Condorcet The guy was based as fuck.

          Here’s a direct quote from one of his more influential works, “On the Admission of Women to the Rights of Citizenship”

          The rights of men stem exclusively from the fact that they are sentient beings, capable of acquiring moral ideas and of reasoning upon them. Since women have the same qualities, they necessarily also have the same rights. Either no member of the human race has any true rights, or else they all have the same ones; and anyone who votes against the rights of another, whatever his religion, colour or sex, automatically forfeits his own.

          That was 1790.

          Sadly, the political party that was backing him fell out of power and the replacements had him arrested, and possibly killed.

          This was his final work http://files.libertyfund.org/files/1669/Condorcet_0878_EBk_v6.0.pdf

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      20 hours ago

      Let me guess, dems should also focus on courting those Gaza genocide voters too? Should we get the trans vote in there too? That’s what, like 15 votes?