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    21 days ago

    Buckle to the top, kick to the bottom. And you wonder why the authoritarian politicians win…

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        21 days ago

        You are only proving it further. This kind of comments sounds just like MAGA voters. And that is part of the issue. How do you want to beat them politically, if you let them influence your political culture in their way?

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          No. I’m tired of people on Lemmy that aren’t even American trying to tell us what to do in our own elections.

          I don’t go astroturfing in posts about your countries politics. So yes, you can fuck right off.

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            America tells other countries how to vote or we’ll overthrow their governments. Even in the 2020s we told South American countries “Elect who we want or we’ll cut off money and send in troops.”

            The world watched America out of fear of Trump winning. Rightfully so. He’s a mad man who hates anyone but himself.

            I’m not going to get mad at people who affected by who runs the world police, the biggest economy, the biggest armed forceds, an unconditional UN veto, and so many more things.

            Trump is bad for everyone in the world. Makes sense people are scared and wanting to chime in.

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              Show me examples of people from the US here, on Lemmy, that tell you 24/7 what to do in your country.

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                Why not Fox News who says America has to be the world police? Why not Musk who said we’ll coup anyone we want? Why not the companies who drafted up a war for oil?

                And I’m an American, so I do have a lot of people on Lemmy telling me how the country should be.

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                  I’m not talking about Americans or American TV. You’re missing the point entirely.

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                    Show me examples of people from the US here, on Lemmy, that tell you 24/7 what to do in your country.

                    So do you want Americans expressing their opinions on the world, or do you not want Americans expressing their opinions of the world?

                    Fox News makes shit up and Americans eat it up. Trump lies, Americans love to repeat it.

                    Do you want me to just lie to you so you think you’ve won this pointless internet argument when Trump is beginning his plans to affect the world?

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            If your country wouldn’t operate multiple military bases in my country, including storing some nuclear warheads here, operating huge lobby groups that captured large parts of my countries press as well as high ranking politicians like chancellors or foreign ministers you had a point. Economically we also have a lot of American investments. Heck the possible next chancellor is an asset of Blackrock. One of the leaders of the fascist party is an asset of Goldman Sachs and neoliberal think tanks.

            But as Americans are influencing the fate of my country quite extensively, i will voice my opinion about what they should and shouldn’t do. Which i think is a rather small influence compared to military, political and economic influence the US is exerting here.

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                And i voted for that consistently. I also demonstrated for that consistently. Sometimes being attacked by the state for it.

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                  Ok. Did I tell you to do that? Did I rub it in your face that your countries leaders suck? Did I pretend to know exactly how your political parties work and what they want?

                  So why are you in here trying to tell everyone what to do in a country you don’t even live in?

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                    Again because your country has extensive military, political and economic influence in my country.

                    So whatever you decide has strong consequences for my country too. Are you familiar with the concepts of privilege and power imbalance?

                    You have the power, you have the responsibility. Now whether you want to listen to people who you have power over, or whether you say “America First” is something you have to make up with your own moral compass.