A hulking steel plant in Middletown,Ā Ohio, is the cityā€™s economic heartbeat as well as a keystoneĀ origin storyĀ ofĀ JD Vance, the hometown senator now running to beĀ Donald Trumpā€™s vice-president.

Its future, however, may hinge uponĀ $500 million in funding from landmark climate legislation that Vance has called a ā€œscamā€ and is a Trump target for demolition.

In March,Ā Joe Bidenā€™s administrationĀ announcedĀ the USā€™s largest ever grant to produce greener steel, enabling theĀ Cleveland-CliffsĀ facility in Middletown to build one of the largest hydrogen fuel furnaces in the world, cutting emissions by a million tons a year by ditching the coal that accelerates theĀ climate crisisĀ and befouls the air for nearby locals.

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When campaigning for the Senate in 2022, Vance said Bidenā€™s sweeping climate bill is ā€œdumb, does nothing for the environment and will make us all poorer,ā€ and more recently as vice-presidential candidate called the IRA a ā€œgreen energy scam thatā€™s actually shipped a lot more manufacturing jobs to China.ā€


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  • okwhateverdude@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    It is frustrating that Couchfucker doesnā€™t want this and for the wrong reasons.

    one of the largest hydrogen fuel furnaces in the world

    Hydrogen powered shit is dumb. Like, super dumb. It is nearly impossible to store the shit without it corroding the tanks, fittings, whatever. So maintenance cost will be a killer in the long run. Nevermind the whole Hindenburg-esque possibility of the plant. Worse than that, unless that hydrogen is coming from renewable sources (aka. ā€œgreenā€ hydrogen), it will actually be way worse for the environment. Most of the shitty sources are actually fossil fuels (aka. ā€œblueā€ hydrogen). And guess who would love to make and sell hydrogen from fossil fuels and is therefore lobbying for government projects for this kind of shit? Thatā€™s right, our ā€œfriendsā€ Big Oil.

    Hossenfelder discusses this in her video Hydrogen Will Not Save Us. Hereā€™s Why. https://youtu.be/Zklo4Z1SqkE

    So yeah. I hate agreeing with Couchfucker about this one very specific point.

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      2 months ago

      Hydrogen powered shit is dumb.

      I had the same skepticism, so I looked into it. The TL;DR is that this isnā€™t that. Itā€™s not using the hydrogen as a fuel source; itā€™s using it as reactant in the reduction reaction that produces metallic iron from iron oxide, so that it does { FexOy + H2 āŸ¶ Fe + H2O } instead of { FexOy + CO āŸ¶ Fe + CO2 }.

      (For the record: I completely agree with everything you wrote, except for the small mistake of assuming ā€œhydrogen powered shitā€ was an accurate description of this particular project.)