(I’m trying to adjust my shopping habits for quality, long-lasting goods from reputable brands. This isn’t some hailcorporate thing)

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    Where’s a list of recalls for non Apple devices for comparison?

    I’ve had several devices that should have been recalled and weren’t so good on Apple for recalling anything at all.

    Did you read the wiki leaks for chained exploits to achieve privilege escalation on various devices? Apple devices had the smallest attack surface by far and had already patched several vectors before they leaked.

    With android, you had several paths to choose from to achieve full control of the device for each and every android version, and the likelihood that a device was patched, if a patch existed at all, was extremely low. Patch releases would lag published exploits for years.

    Apple has always used the right hardware for the job, while others add as much power as possible to hide the fact their software / hardware marriage is abysmal.

    And now there is Apple silicon, which is even better!

    • Hardware: Winner Apple
    • Software: Winner Apple
    • Security: Winner Apple
    • User friendliness: Winner Apple
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      And you had anything beyond saying it to back it up.

      Hardware I’ve already proven, you, well… You made something up and hoped for the best.

      Software, as we are talking more about macOS at the beginning, it’s a joke that you are claiming macOS has more and various software than Windows. There is a reason even Apple uses Windows and not macOS.

      Security, again, you made a quick claim and nothing to back it up. But here is a list of iOS exploits just from 2022-2023.

      User friendliness: this reeks of desperation. And has been proven in the past to be wrong, but keep trolling. I’ll keep laughing 🤣

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        All you have proven is that Apple has had recalls in the past. Recalls happen. I’m not sure what point you are trying to make.

        Hardware you have not proven at all. You linked to Apple recalls. Who are you comparing them to? Whose products in this space are more trustworthy to you?

        Security… here is a list of CVEs Samsung is patching just for August. I’m glad they have SMRs, but what is the uptake? Android 14 has a measly 13% share. 70.5% of iPhones are running the latest iOS. Security patches that don’t get installed don’t provide security. You can’t trust android developers to not exploit the hell out of the android os. The OS wasn’t designed with security in mind and anybody that reads the API can see that. The entire ecosystem can’t be trusted.

        Critical CVE-2024-21461

        High CVE-2024-4610, CVE-2024-0153, CVE-2024-21460, CVE-2024-21465, CVE-2024-21469, CVE-2024-21462, CVE-2024-34724, CVE-2024-34725, CVE-2024-34726, CVE-2024-23373, CVE-2024-23372, CVE-2024-23368, CVE-2024-23380, CVE-2024-26923, CVE-2024-31334, CVE-2024-31335, CVE-2024-20077, CVE-2023-20971, CVE-2023-21351, CVE-2024-34731, CVE-2024-34735, CVE-2024-34737, CVE-2024-34738, CVE-2024-34739, CVE-2024-34740, CVE-2024-34741, CVE-2024-34743, CVE-2024-34736, CVE-2024-34742, CVE-2024-34727, CVE-2024-34745, CVE-2024-34746, CVE-2024-36971, CVE-2024-32896

        User friendliness… it is well documented that Apple cares more about users than developers and now, as a result, developers target Apple platforms too. Why? Because developers follow the users. It doesn’t matter how enticing Microsoft is for developers, if there aren’t users, developers will leave. Because Microsoft can’t be trusted and constantly screw over their users. Microsoft is only still in use because they have plenty of monopolies. Every time one of their monopolies falls, users flock to their competitor. Microsoft cannot be trusted to execute. Zune, Windows Phone, Kinect. Office has been replaced. Xbox replaced. And windows is being replaced.

        Here is an analysis of usability and reliability that sums it all up in terms we all understand. Money. Macs are cheaper than PCs.

        This debate is over. ^

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          Debate is over? You come here, attempt very poor attempt of a flood of BS, and call that a debate? 🤡

          Bonus points for linking to the well known and debunked “claim” that macs are cheaper over the long term than Windows. Wow, that sad attempt took me back (and I knew you’d use it). I can see you never looked into that claim. It claims that Windows needed AV, a $100+ a year, but macOS some mhow doesn’t, even though macOS malware was on the rise even then. Combined with how they claimed half the enterprise security suites somehow weren’t needed for macOS showed it wasn’t a serious attempt (a lot like your messages).

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              It wasn’t a debate not because I wanted a thesis, it’s because all you wanted was to troll. Your entire comment was “lol, trust me bro. Here’s a well known lie to back me up”. And you were terrible at it. Go back to Reddit.

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                I stand by it. Apple is trusted because they have consistently delivered good products that has built a large fan base. It’s not bias. Observing that large and loyal fan base is an objective measure.

                Saying they aren’t reliable because they’ve had a recall is your bias showing.