• UrPartnerInCrime@sh.itjust.works
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    3 months ago

    Communism isn’t the goal. That’s what far right thinks the far left wants. The far left wants more Universal Basic Income where everyone’s needs are met. People are still allowed to go make money. Just there no homeless, which in turn should mean there’s no ultra ultra wealthy.

    But communism where absolutely everybody gets the same thing hasn’t been argued for in a while (at least I haven’t seen it past arguing with Republicans it’s a bad idea).

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      3 months ago

      Depends on who you ask, but I think most far left would say they are going for communism of some stripe.

      I want heavy taxes on the wealthy, UBI, universal housing and healthcare, and much more regulation. I want higher union membership and more co-op business of all stripes. I don’t want a central, planned economy. (I have many other not directly economic concerns.)

      I’m not often accused of being far left, these days, but I have been called a communist in the past. I consider myself a democratic socialist.

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        3 months ago

        That seems like Social Democracy, not Democratic Socialism. Democratic Socialism implies central planning along Liberal Democratic lines

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          I’ve heard it both ways. And I don’t vote for labels; at least, I try to vote for policies. I’m all for redistribution from billionaires, and the very idea of “redistribution” gets me called a socialist in a lot of fora.

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        3 months ago

        I 100% agree with what you’ve said.

        The problem with other people ideologies of communism us as soon as you bring up one of those points it immediately makes you a communist and communism bad.

        But yeah, allow capitalism and people to strive for a better life, just have the safety net in place for those that fall/can’t climb.

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      3 months ago

      Communism is very much the goal.

      But communism where absolutely everybody gets the same thing hasn’t been argued for in a while (at least I haven’t seen it past arguing with Republicans it’s a bad idea).

      That’s not Communism. Communism posits “From each according to their abilities, to each according to their needs.” Read Critique of the Gotha Programme.

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        3 months ago

        I only made that point cause that’s what I keep having to argue, not that’s what I actually belive. That’s why I made a note saying that’s what I argue against Republicans.

        But again, that’s what Republicans tend to think so that’s what I argue. But continue going off. Cause again. I’ve had the conversation irl WITH REPUBLICANS thinking that’s what communism is.

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          3 months ago

          Why try to meet Republicans at their level? That’s a more reasonable strategy for almost-radicalized liberals, and even then it can backfire.

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            3 months ago

            Because I live in a bright red area, and some people I would call friends I’d rather try to set straight instead of not talk to them.