Sen. Mark Warner (D-Va.) is attempting to assemble a group of Democratic senators to go to the White House on Monday and ask that Joe Biden exit the presidential race, according to two people with direct knowledge of the effort.
Nah, I just watched his “come back” interview with George on ABC News. Biden isn’t dead yet but he’s absolutely sundowning. I would give his performance a grade of C (A being the top grade, B being second best, and F being the worst grade).
Biden has no vitality, and as far as Biden is concerned a desperate underclass and wealth inequality aren’t even a thing. Biden is grossly out of touch.
Arguably the President’s chief job is not to execute the law of the land, but rather to inspire hope. He is too tired to be able to do that. But nothing is perfect, and he does keep trying, and we gotta respect that effort at least:-).
reddit is tearing Biden a new asshole for his (paraphrased) “It’s OK as long as I gave it my all” answer to the question “How will you feel if you lose to Trump?”
They would not even give him a C like I did, it would be a straight F.
Okay but… at this point, how much of Reddit comments are not just straight-up Russian troll farms, or people who have interacted with those for so long that we could not tell the difference?
Whereas we have tankies on Lemmy, but they are different, and we also have some non-tankies as well.
Most people with a conscience have already left Reddit behind, unless there’s a really good reason otherwise (e.g. nursing subs and other emergency services).
So I guess I’m saying, would those people have voted for some other Democratic candidate? Or do they just want to complain and serve up their word emo-vomit as “content” on Reddit, which the latter keeps rewarding them for doing no matter how irrelevant it is to irl?
Oh some aren’t, for sure, but then when their words are copied verbatim they become so, unbeknownst to their original writers. So yeah, they aren’t “all” bots, but some are.
Of course if you’re going to wax philosophical, what’s the difference between us and bots if we are both programmed? Maybe a bot is 100% driven by their programming while a human is 99% programming and 1% genuine creativity and intelligence that just slips through the cracks in our programming on occasion when we get particularly honest with ourselves.
I mean, Trumps going to win if we stick with Biden.
There are two things I’m confident in, in this order:
Biden won’t be the next president;
Biden won’t be the nominee.
The idea that we should stick with a candidate who has effectively already lost this election because shifting candidates would cause “splintering” is ignoring the fact that the party is already splintered. If it wasn’t, Biden wouldn’t be losing like this.
Brace yourself, bc based on discussions here and what he’s said, I think Biden will remain the nominee. Yes, that should chill you to the bone, if it causes Trump to win. However, everyone seems too afraid to buck the system right now - e.g. Harris is not well-liked already, by anyone it seems, and stands to gain the Presidency handed to her by Biden, so she’s not going to risk that sweet deal by trying to remove him. If he did so willingly, which he’s already said that he won’t, then that would be one thing, but otherwise…
I mean he’s going to say that until he isn’t running any more. I’m not clutching my pearls.
If I do start clutching my pearls, head for the exits. I’ll be very loud about it at that time.
I think we’re not going to have Biden as the eventual nominee; I think whomever we end up with will do fine (as long as they are on the right side of the Israel/ Gaza issue).
What if there is no right side to that issue? “From the river to the sea” means that both sides want to genocide the other, except that one side is actively doing that now, but give them half a chance and the other will do it right back.
But if we withdraw our support, gas prices go up, and thereby Republicans win the House and Senate. We only have the almost-majority now bc they went down bc of the deals Biden made e.g. with the Saudis who killed Jamal Khashoggi.
Arguably Biden may somehow be grandfathered in, but any new nominee is going to have to take a stand on the issue with some kind of position or another. And thereby they are going to get eaten alive, no matter what position they take.
I suddenly see why Biden is taking the Presidency to his grave - it may well be literally the only option left open at this point.
Edit: otherwise, why would you have added that last bit, “(as long as they are on the right side of the Israel/ Gaza issue)” - with all that is going on, it’s not enough to be a Democrat who can stay awake during a sentence, as we’ve all been saying, now suddenly they also have to have the perfect stance on the Gaza issue too? You know, the “correct” (leftist) one, which also somehow is the one that will convince people who might otherwise vote for Trump to pick this new nominee instead? (so thereby not leftist at all, or else they will stay with Trump)
remember that campaigns are weird. Even in the primary, you have to maintain momentum for as long as possible, and frequently if you look like you’re about to fold, you’re done. So he’s going to be 'In It to Win It" right up to the end. Then he folds and every one is going to be like “well this was sudden.” when really, it’s not sudden at all.
Replacing Biden with a younger candidate will not cause any splinters. Not a chance. Everyone will fall in line behind the new D.
Hell even replacing Biden with a ham sandwich, with a worse candidate, will not cause splintering.
The Dems need a candidate who can debate toe to toe with Trump, and who can project vitality and a vision for America that isn’t a Christofascist monarchy and isn’t a shithole with an underclass who can’t afford to go to the dentist, who has to split their pills, and make decisions between air conditioning and car repairs. We need a leader who will take on the wealth inequality head on with major structural reforms.
Or, its very late in the game and this chaos causes the dems to splinter, leaving trump ripe for victory.
You act like you know exactly what will happen, when in reality things can end up pear shaped whether we stick with biden or get a new candidate.
Polls and MSM are focusing on biden, allowing trump to gain ground. Whatever is gonna happen needs to happen NOW.
If he was merely sick, then one good press conference followed by a second debate might be able to turn things around, just enough, maybe?
But if not…
Nah, I just watched his “come back” interview with George on ABC News. Biden isn’t dead yet but he’s absolutely sundowning. I would give his performance a grade of C (A being the top grade, B being second best, and F being the worst grade).
Biden has no vitality, and as far as Biden is concerned a desperate underclass and wealth inequality aren’t even a thing. Biden is grossly out of touch.
Arguably the President’s chief job is not to execute the law of the land, but rather to inspire hope. He is too tired to be able to do that. But nothing is perfect, and he does keep trying, and we gotta respect that effort at least:-).
reddit is tearing Biden a new asshole for his (paraphrased) “It’s OK as long as I gave it my all” answer to the question “How will you feel if you lose to Trump?”
They would not even give him a C like I did, it would be a straight F.
https://old.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/1dwe58u/biden_at_peace_if_he_loses_to_trump_as_long_as_i/
Brutal.
Okay but… at this point, how much of Reddit comments are not just straight-up Russian troll farms, or people who have interacted with those for so long that we could not tell the difference?
Whereas we have tankies on Lemmy, but they are different, and we also have some non-tankies as well.
Most people with a conscience have already left Reddit behind, unless there’s a really good reason otherwise (e.g. nursing subs and other emergency services).
So I guess I’m saying, would those people have voted for some other Democratic candidate? Or do they just want to complain and serve up their word emo-vomit as “content” on Reddit, which the latter keeps rewarding them for doing no matter how irrelevant it is to irl?
They’re not bots, for sure.
I no longer have an active account on reddit but I read it from time to time using the Stealth app.
Oh some aren’t, for sure, but then when their words are copied verbatim they become so, unbeknownst to their original writers. So yeah, they aren’t “all” bots, but some are.
Of course if you’re going to wax philosophical, what’s the difference between us and bots if we are both programmed? Maybe a bot is 100% driven by their programming while a human is 99% programming and 1% genuine creativity and intelligence that just slips through the cracks in our programming on occasion when we get particularly honest with ourselves.
I mean, Trumps going to win if we stick with Biden.
There are two things I’m confident in, in this order:
Biden won’t be the next president;
Biden won’t be the nominee.
The idea that we should stick with a candidate who has effectively already lost this election because shifting candidates would cause “splintering” is ignoring the fact that the party is already splintered. If it wasn’t, Biden wouldn’t be losing like this.
Brace yourself, bc based on discussions here and what he’s said, I think Biden will remain the nominee. Yes, that should chill you to the bone, if it causes Trump to win. However, everyone seems too afraid to buck the system right now - e.g. Harris is not well-liked already, by anyone it seems, and stands to gain the Presidency handed to her by Biden, so she’s not going to risk that sweet deal by trying to remove him. If he did so willingly, which he’s already said that he won’t, then that would be one thing, but otherwise…
I mean he’s going to say that until he isn’t running any more. I’m not clutching my pearls.
If I do start clutching my pearls, head for the exits. I’ll be very loud about it at that time.
I think we’re not going to have Biden as the eventual nominee; I think whomever we end up with will do fine (as long as they are on the right side of the Israel/ Gaza issue).
What if there is no right side to that issue? “From the river to the sea” means that both sides want to genocide the other, except that one side is actively doing that now, but give them half a chance and the other will do it right back.
But if we withdraw our support, gas prices go up, and thereby Republicans win the House and Senate. We only have the almost-majority now bc they went down bc of the deals Biden made e.g. with the Saudis who killed Jamal Khashoggi.
Arguably Biden may somehow be grandfathered in, but any new nominee is going to have to take a stand on the issue with some kind of position or another. And thereby they are going to get eaten alive, no matter what position they take.
I suddenly see why Biden is taking the Presidency to his grave - it may well be literally the only option left open at this point.
Edit: otherwise, why would you have added that last bit, “(as long as they are on the right side of the Israel/ Gaza issue)” - with all that is going on, it’s not enough to be a Democrat who can stay awake during a sentence, as we’ve all been saying, now suddenly they also have to have the perfect stance on the Gaza issue too? You know, the “correct” (leftist) one, which also somehow is the one that will convince people who might otherwise vote for Trump to pick this new nominee instead? (so thereby not leftist at all, or else they will stay with Trump)
remember that campaigns are weird. Even in the primary, you have to maintain momentum for as long as possible, and frequently if you look like you’re about to fold, you’re done. So he’s going to be 'In It to Win It" right up to the end. Then he folds and every one is going to be like “well this was sudden.” when really, it’s not sudden at all.
Replacing Biden with a younger candidate will not cause any splinters. Not a chance. Everyone will fall in line behind the new D.
Hell even replacing Biden with a ham sandwich, with a worse candidate, will not cause splintering.
The Dems need a candidate who can debate toe to toe with Trump, and who can project vitality and a vision for America that isn’t a Christofascist monarchy and isn’t a shithole with an underclass who can’t afford to go to the dentist, who has to split their pills, and make decisions between air conditioning and car repairs. We need a leader who will take on the wealth inequality head on with major structural reforms.