• splonglo@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    14
    arrow-down
    2
    ·
    4 months ago

    Actually History isn’t always written by the victors. After WW2 a load of german officers fled to south America and began writing books about how great they were and could have won if only they had finished developing all their wonder weapons in time. This is the origin of a lot of persistent and false memes about how advanced and brilliant the nazis supposedly were. It’s history written by losers.

    • lugal@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      5
      ·
      4 months ago

      You talk about memes. I don’t know them. I think all states, including Germany, teach the story of the Victors in school

      • UrPartnerInCrime@sh.itjust.works
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        4 months ago

        Actually History isn’t always written by the victors… This is the origin of a lot of persistent and false memes…

        You may remember history but your reading comprehension needs a little work

        • lugal@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          4 months ago

          What does writing history mean to you? Making memes no one knows about, isn’t. Making memes that enter public consciousness (as the word combination “a lot of persistent” seems to suggest or at least leave open) maybe. But what do I know, I lack basic reading skills apparently.

          • UrPartnerInCrime@sh.itjust.works
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            4 months ago

            Writing history is more than just what’s actually written down. Stories passed through word of mouth, that stick around, are a part of history a la German Scientists making themselves seems smarter after losing. Which is a reoccurring trope throughout Media.

            So yes, history is sometimes ‘written’ by the losers

    • duderium2@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      4
      arrow-down
      3
      ·
      edit-2
      4 months ago

      Interestingly, the CIA also rescued thousands of high-profile Nazis and brought them to the USA, where they were given positions of power and authority (Operation Paperclip, Operation Bloodstone), and began teaching people that changing anything is impossible and we need to fight communism because it is evil and authoritarian and goes against human nature and always fails (not because it’s the most effective way to destroy Nazism).