• Anomandaris@kbin.social
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        1 year ago

        There’s a really big difference between a college kid dealing weed to his friends and a fentanyl distributor. There are some substances you just can’t allow to move freely through the country.

        Are you aware of how little fentanyl it takes to kill someone? How badly heroin addiction changes people and ruins their lives? I am absolutely in favour of more lax rulings on recreational drugs, but not ones so completely destructive and destabilizing.

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          1 year ago

          Legalize all drugs and treat addiction like the sickness it is. It’s worked very well in several countries already.

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            1 year ago

            Policies like that are about treating the addicts, not the distributors. I absolutely agree on that practice with regards to addicts, but we still need to go after the distributors of these lethal, destructive drugs.

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              Just regulate them and allow safe amounts to be sold. Legalize drugs and regulate the hell out of the industry. Cartels are no match for the greedy corporations that will jump on the bandwagon and produce their own drugs. Kill cartels completely.

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                Cartels are essentially the same as multinational corporations. They just have the added benefit of the use of violence. They’ve already entered the legal weed industry.

                Casinos were legal and the mob was all over it. Unions in the NE were controlled be the mob. Legalizing something does not mean organized crime is going away.

                But it would reduce violence and suffering that our current drug laws create so ultimately still better

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          Heroin ruins people’s lives in large part because it’s illegal. If it were legal it would be dirt cheap and these people could live something resembling a normal life without being pushed towards crime every time they need another fix. Nobody takes fentanyl on purpose. None of this would have happened if heroin were treated like the pharmaceutical it is and not mixed with other chemicals by untrained sociopaths.

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      Kind of beside your point but worth mentioning that cartels absolutely do NOT traffic fentanyl. They want to make money and fentanyl kills their customer base.

      It is the low level dumber dealers who are mixing with fentanyl so they can stretch their supply to make more money.

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        100% cartels traffick fentanyl. They get precursor chemicals from Chinese companies and produce it in bulk. Id wager the lower level dealers would prefer not having fentanyl because a) they’re the ones actually dealing with the fallout of the deaths and b) most drug dealers are dealer-users

        Fact is, fentanyl is active at something ridiculous like 1/100th of volume than heroin. So a simple thought experiment

        For the same amount of product, would you prefer smuggling 1 truckload of drugs into the US or 100 truckloads into the US? The answer is obvious. A few deaths here and there is 100% financially worth it

        All the deaths don’t matter because of the ridiculous savings you’re getting on transporting the bulk quantity of drugs over. Fentanyl isn’t going away anytime soon because of this. It’s just so much easier to transport because you need to transport so much less