• EnglishMobster@kbin.social
        16·
        1 year ago

        Steam Deck honestly convinced me to move my desktop over to Linux.

        I’m still dual-booting, but I only go into Windows if something struggles too much over Proton (looking at you Satisfactory). I’ve been daily driving KDE Neon for about 2 months without issues.

        Plasma is a great desktop environment, too. Usually the desktop environments were what chased me away - GNOME was slow sometimes and always felt… off, Cinnamon doesn’t like multiple desktops despite claiming to, with the maintainers refusing to even acknowledge the problems, XFE is… XFE, and historically Plasma was always super crashy and bloated.

        Valve’s been funding the KDE guys to make Plasma better and it really shows. Plasma feels like a modern desktop that can compete with Windows directly - and honestly beats Windows with how bad Windows 11 has become. (Last time I was in Windows it took the Windows 11 Start Menu a full 20 seconds to open - but don’t worry, it had time to serve me an ad for Xbox Game Pass.)

        • D_Air1@lemmy.ml
          2·
          1 year ago

          I’ve seen at least one article of Valve funding some work on kwin for a short time, but nothing of them funding the actual desktop. Do you know of any sources for that?

            • D_Air1@lemmy.ml
              2·
              1 year ago

              Cool, gave it a look. Didn’t know the firewall settings page came about because of collaboration with them. Didn’t see anything about funding, but I hope they are.

        • interolivary@beehaw.org
          2·
          1 year ago

          Just wait until you hit your head on a cabinet door and wake up with a sudden craving for tiling window managers. Before you know it you’ll have a customized WM config written in Haskell that you’ll forget how to edit after a few months

        • Ticktok@lemmy.one
          2·
          1 year ago

          You basically described me exactly when I switched. Switched to Endeavour OS Nov2021 and I’ve been so happy with the change. Steam Deck was definitely my inspiration and reason I chose an arch based distro with KDE(I’d also always preferred kde from my previous Linux forays). I game everyday, and at this point I consider myself Linux proficient. I rarely need to look up commands. Other than games I rarely need to use any non native software, but when I do running it through Bottles usually works. Next step is to finally upgrade my aging 1070ti to an AMD card.

        • 🦄🦄🦄@feddit.de
          01·
          1 year ago

          Same! Just switched over to this nifty distro called EndeavourOS… Yeah, I use arch btw 😎

      • ghariksforge@lemmy.world
        3·
        1 year ago

        Proton is wine+dxvk packaged by Valve (pkus a few other libs). The work the wine teams did in thr last decades has been heroic.

    • Oliper202020@lemmy.world
      131·
      1 year ago

      I think it’s a combination of the steam deck, people learning that Linux isn’t really that hard, and Microsoft breaking there reputation by spitting out windows 11 when they promised that windows 10 would be the last, and windows 11 having higher requirements so people with older computers is now looking at alternatives and the people who haven’t switched to 11 being stressed about windows 12 comming, and then therefore searching for alternatives

    • WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world
      3·
      1 year ago

      There’s definitely a long way to go, but as more people start using Linux adoption is likely to accelerate. You’re more likely to switch if you know someone personally who already uses it and can help you get over the initial hurdles, and the more people who use it the more attention it’ll get from hardware and software vendors, making them more likely to support Linux directly instead of so much relying on compatibility layers and reverse-engineered drivers.

  • Sterben@lemmy.world
    161·
    1 year ago

    I think mostly thanks to Steam Deck. I have one, and it is probably one of the best gaming device I ever bought.

      • socsa@lemmy.ml
        2·
        1 year ago

        For everyday browser workflows I’m not sure why anyone would use anything else. Microsoft literally only keeps windows relevant by making sure pptx will never be standards compliant. Other than gaming, that’s literally the only thing forcing me to use windows or macOS these days. Company requirements to have native PowerPoint.

        • Sterben@lemmy.world
          1·
          1 year ago

          I am a Linux Student User, they gove me a presentation to do, and I simply used the PowerPoint Online Tool.

          Of course, it might lack some features, but for an assignment every once and a while, was perfectly fine.

          For the rest I always use Libre Office to complete my assignments, and convert the file to PDF afterward.

      • BrokenToshy@lemmy.world
        1·
        1 year ago

        Only thing preventing me from switching is the fact games with anti-cheat are pretty much fucked on Linux unfortunately

    • Sethayy@sh.itjust.works
      4·
      1 year ago

      This only counts web users, so probably actually underrepresented deck users (cause who’s browsing the web on their deck)

      Also doesn’t count Firefox users

  • moonmeow@lemmy.ml
    15·
    1 year ago

    For Desktops. Nice. I’d like to see numbers that include servers, steam decks, androids, etc…

  • moonmeow@lemmy.ml
    10·
    1 year ago

    Give it more time. As Microsoft cuts support for perfectly good working hardware, people will learn about this magical free and open source software operating system of many varieties they can choose from, and with a little nudge and a beginner friendly variant (linux mint, ubuntu), they too will learn to love linux.

  • Maddison@sh.itjust.works
    101·
    1 year ago

    Does anyone think this number can be more than what’s being reported? If I am not wrong, some Linux users are very privacy concerned and probably might not like to scream to the world that they are using Linux, it can’t be 1% or anything like that, but I reckon it’s greater than 0.1% of desktop users

  • confusedbytheBasics@lemmy.world
    156·
    1 year ago

    Do desktops really matter in 2023? What fraction of computers are desktops now? Most computers are phones and servers last time I checked. As we all know Linux dominates there.

    • Master@lemm.ee
      19·
      1 year ago

      I have one phone… I’ve got three desktops at home, one laptops plus two steamdecks, two servers and one ipad we never use.

      At work we have 15 desktops plus 2 servers and 4 laptops.

      I dont know how people live with just a phone as a “computer”. I couldnt even live with just a laptop… Like what are you people doing just browsing tiktok and youtube?

      • 0ddysseus@lemmy.world
        11·
        1 year ago

        Yel that’s exactly what they do. I’ve asked around, and at a guess, half the people I know only have a phone. Whole families just using a phone each to look at YouTube and tiktok, do banking talk to friends on WhatsApp, Snapchat, Facebook. They watch tv, play sport, go out socialising, shopping, etc. They honestly have no use for a PC at all

        A huge percentage of people don’t use a computer at work either.

        Its easy to get lost in tech, but in reality the vast majority of people in this world just have no use for desktops or laptops.

      • confusedbytheBasics@lemmy.world
        4·
        1 year ago

        I have a desktop and 4 laptops, zero tablets, and one phone. Of course they all boot linux by default. But I know I’m an outlier. I hang out with average families. They have maybe one desktop, two to three laptops (of which about half are school chromebooks), a Playstation/Switch/XBox, and one phone per person. Plus the computers they use most are not in their house they are servers in data centers. The machines they possess are really just interfaces to the computers they actually rely on.

    • socsa@lemmy.ml
      5·
      1 year ago

      If you work in ML or scientific computing then it has been the year of the Linux desktop for about a decade now.

      • confusedbytheBasics@lemmy.world
        5·
        1 year ago

        Very true. A lot of the SciComp and ML folks I know use a McBook Air as the keyboard/mouse for their real machine which sits under their desk and eats 1200W while it works.

        • socsa@lemmy.ml
          2·
          1 year ago

          Yup. This has been my life for a while now. MacOS is an expensive, but competent ssh client. And my personal daily driver is Ubuntu. I went through an arch and Gentoo phase, but Ubuntu is fine tbh.

    • morrowind@lemmy.ml
      1·
      1 year ago

      There’s a good deal more laptops than desktops. They’re included. And since a good amount of the traffic is from no doubt steam deck, I guess that covers mobile as well (not really, but still, better than nothing)

  • synack@lemmy.world
    102·
    1 year ago

    I’d just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

    Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called “Linux”, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

    There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine’s resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called “Linux” distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

  • Uniquitous@lemmy.one
    8·
    1 year ago

    Meanwhile, the servers, containers, and phones are all running some flavor of *nix. But yeah, nice to have a little toehold in desktop-land, I guess.

    • Pulp@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      2·
      1 year ago

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