• sweng@programming.dev
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      2
      arrow-down
      8
      ·
      5 months ago

      Yes, and then what? Are you somehow suggesting that only primary sources can be used as sources? I’ve never heard anyine take that position before.

      Of course, one can challenge sources (of any type) but that does usully require some type of argument for why the source is incorrect, and not just because you don’t like it.

      • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        8
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        5 months ago

        I’m suggesting that when you say Russian red lines have been crossed without consequences, you need to provide primary sources from Russia regarding what Russian red lines are. I see this is a very difficult concept for you to grasp.

        Of course, one can challenge sources (of any type) but that does usully require some type of argument for why the source is incorrect, and not just because you don’t like it.

        The source is incorrect because the red lines claimed in the source haven’t actually been articulated by Russia, and none of the links in your source actually trace back to statements from Russia. So, claiming Russian red lines have been crossed when there is zero actual evidence these were Russian red lines is nonsensical.

        • sweng@programming.dev
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          arrow-down
          6
          ·
          edit-2
          5 months ago

          you need to provide primary sources from Russia regarding what Russian red lines are.

          I actually don’t. I need to provide some source. If you are unhappy with that source it’s up to you to show that it is a bad source, and why.

          • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            6
            ·
            5 months ago

            I’ve already explained to you why your source is misleading, and that the red lines your sources list trace back to western statements as opposed to Russian ones. It’s not about feels, it’s about you making an objectively false statement.

            • sweng@programming.dev
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              1
              arrow-down
              5
              ·
              5 months ago

              You literally haven’t explained it. Your argument seems to be that secondary sources are per definition invalid, which you certainly are allowed to feel, but it is a very niche opinion to have.

                • sweng@programming.dev
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  1
                  arrow-down
                  5
                  ·
                  5 months ago

                  Yes, you keep repeating how you don’t accept secondary sources. What you don’t repeat (or even mention once) is why you distegard these sources.

                  Bye.

      • M0oP0o@mander.xyz
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        arrow-down
        8
        ·
        5 months ago

        Oh its so much funnier then that, They then provide non primary sources while demanding everyone else “Proves” them wrong only with primary sources. This is a joke at this point.

        • Aria@lemmygrad.ml
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          3
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          5 months ago

          The two sources yogthos@lemmy.ml provided are nato.int for a NATO statement, a primary source, and the Wikipedia page for burden of proof, a concept that doesn’t have a primary source. In this thread yogthos@lemmy.ml has a perfect track record of using 100% (1) primary source, and 0% (0) secondary sources.