I’d like to start a series seeking viewpoints from across the political spectrum in general discussions about modern society and where everyone stands on what is not working, what is working, and where we see things going in the future.

Please answer in good-faith and if you don’t consider yourself conservative or “to the right”, please reserve top-level discussion for those folks so it reaches the “right” folks haha.

Please don’t downvote respectful content that is merely contrary to your political sensibillities, lets have actual discourse and learn more about each other and our respective viewpoints.

Will be doing other sides soon but lets start with this and see where it takes us.

  • trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world
    142·
    7 months ago

    Certain ideologies are just not compatible with western culture, specifically those who condone raping women and murdering lgbtq people. Ideologies are not races or ethnicity, they are not inherent to you like race is. Nazis are an ideology, so why give other ideologies a pass?

    I don’t think anyone is giving them a pass?

    Furthermore, immigration hurts the average worker. A person born into a poorer country will usually work for less than a person born into a richer country. Immigrants are basically scabs, cheap abusable labor, and that’s why we let in millions into western countries.

    Just not true, according to the data we have, a vast majority of workers are better off with immigration.

    The only group which is hurt by it is people without high school diploma, which is bad, but the increased productivity and tax revenue could also easily be used to help those people.

    Canadians can’t buy a house, the UK can’t get a doctors appointment.

    How are these things caused by tolerance? The first one is a runaway unregulated housing market, and the second one is caused by austerity.

    Sweden is the rape capitol of Europe

    Just not true due to a huge variety of factors I am too lazy to explain right now.

    America is close to electing Trump again, wages are down every where, purchasing power is down, everything is fucked.

    Again, how is this caused by being tolerant of minorities?

    We’ve let in so many in the name of tolerance it causes problems that we aren’t even allowed to discuss, and it’s destroying our countries.

    “When I said that gay people are driving the wages down at Thanksgiving my family looked at me weird.”

    • best_username_ever@sh.itjust.works
      82·
      7 months ago

      I don’t think anyone is giving them a pass?

      In France the left has the following explanation most of the time: “he doesn’t have our cultural reference and doesn’t know it’s bad,” or “he’s psychologically disturbed and therefore not his fault so no prison.”

      • trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world
        42·
        7 months ago

        “he doesn’t have our cultural reference and doesn’t know it’s bad,”

        I guess I’ve seen people say this? But it’s not really the common way of thinking in most progressive spaces. Can’t really say for France specifically though, I guess.

        “he’s psychologically disturbed and therefore not his fault so no prison.”

        In these cases people are usually put on involuntary psych holds, and reassessed over time, as far as I know?

        Either way, not really getting off scott-free.

    • Kaboom@reddthat.com
      24·
      7 months ago

      I don’t think anyone is giving them a pass?

      Theyre giving them a pass to enter the country.