What an utter piece of shit.

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    Fucking charge him with something. This is insane… If it’s not treason, it sure as hell is undermining the billions of dollars in aid were sending Ukraine. We’ve sent 76 billion dollars so far.

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      Yeah, if an unelected CEO can tell a democratically elected government what it can and can’t do we’re no better than medieval peasants who had to bow and scrape for the nobles’ favor

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        we’re no better than medieval peasants who had to bow and scrape for the nobles’ favor

        It’s been like that for decades(centuries?). The rich do as they please and the rest of us are treated like livestock. It’s impressive citizens don’t revolt more than they do these days.

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        Vote with your wallet. If you hate him so much don’t buy anything from him. It’s a fair meritocracy, if you think you can run a better space satellite company you are welcome to try

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          You know at SpaceX and Tesla, there is a layer of management between Musk and the actual production team, that does nothing but run interference. Their job is to make sure the companies stay running and moving forward, DESPITE, what Musk says.

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            That sounds like it was made up by somebody who is jealous of his intelligence and leadership skills

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              I think it’s funny that Musk simps think peoppe are jealous when we criticize him. Honey, I wouldn’t trade places with Musk if you paid me. I already dealt with teenage insecurities, and I’d rather have average amounts of money and people who actually love me than a yawning void in my soul constantly sereking approval from adoring crowds. I want to be decent and useful to the world more than I want to be rich. And I’m not alone. You wanting to be Elon Musk doesn’t mean everyone does.

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                You people need to stop feeding the trolls. If you actually think this isn’t a satirical account after reading the other shit he has posted, then you yourself are likely insane.

                Stop wasting your time, the only way to make them go away is to ignore them.

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                  Bold of you to assume I took the time to read the other stuff he posted. And ignoring trolls doesn’t actually do much to discourage them, ime. So I’ll keep doing as I please, thanks.

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                    I refuse to believe that this post that was below like 30 other ones was the only one you read.

                    Yes, ignoring trolls is how you get rid of them, that is exactly how it works. You feed a wild bear, he will come back for more than the last time. Trolls are exactly the same way.

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      Stop trying to tell a private citizen and businessman what he can and can’t do with his own business

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          First of all he got there by being the best businessman in the world, lots a hard work and plucky stick-to-it-ive-ness plus a keen eye for innovation. Think about this. If he hadn’t used his space satellites to stop the Ukies, Putin could have launched the Nukies! Basically he saved the planet and this is the thanks you give him. No good deed goes unpunished

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        When you have a contract with the federal government it comes with stipulations. Don’t “private citizen” this. It’s not a mom and pop store.

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          But Starlink DIDN’T have a contract with the US government, DOD, or Ukraine government. That’s the point. And they went ahead and used it for guided munitions.

          Which is a violation of the terms of service and not what anyone at SpaceX had intended.

          Problem is, that’s exactly how they ended up being used!

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            You’re tracking that Starlink sells service directly to the US military for activities that aren’t exactly tickle parties right?

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              True, but didn’t Starshield happen after this stuff? I guess I need to relook at the timeline. But as I remember things, he started tossing starlink access at Ukraine, tried to get DoD to pay, they chose not to. Then he started to these games, and after that DoD started paying up. Starshield was announced a little bit after that.

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        Where do you draw the line? Should he also be allowed to sell his services to Russia? Should private companies from the US be allowed to sell arms to Russia?

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          Never mind that. Let’s suppose he can sell his services to whomever he likes.

          What about the privacy implications? How did he know that specific attack was planned? Can he just listen in on any communication going across Starlink? I don’t think anyone should be okay with that.

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            How did he know that specific attack was planned?

            Ukraine asked him to extend Starlink coverage for the attack.

            No conspiracy theory needed, they just told him.

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            Since he runs Starlink, he has a map of where every single Starlink receiver is located. Literally, a real time map with GPS coordinates.

            Russia would kill to have that info.

            However, musk also hack and jam proofed Starlink to help Ukraine too.

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          The whole reason this happened is because he disabled Starlink satellites over Russia in order to help the Ukrainian war effort. He just refused to turn it on for a specific offensive operation in Crimea that Ukraine requested - claiming he wanted to avoid escalation. Him and the US government were in agreement during time. Remember the US did not want to give tanks and planes because of fear of escalation.

          I don’t mean to try and put a damper on the 5 minute hate session but I wish people would make an effort to try and understand what is happening before they make all sorts of wild conclusions and statements.

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          I’m not sure where the line is but expecting a private citizen to provide vital defense infrastructure to your foreign allies and continually act in your best interests is clearly past it.

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            The issue is removing infrastructure on your own personal whims when it goes against what your own tax payers are paying for, especially when they have funded your company / companies. It’s obscene.

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              Except it wasn’t “removed”, he declined to “extend” it before getting paid by those tax payers.

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          Of course. That’s called capitalism and the free market. Don’t like it? Move to Venezuela

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            Nah, I’d rather attack the cancer that is capitalism at the source and work to rid the world of its scourge once and for all. Sorry you chose the loser’s side.

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            How do you figure he stopped anything? If he wanted to stop a war he should reach out to the Russian leaders he’s claiming to have talked to and get them to leave Ukraine. Instead he believes their bluffs goes back for more.

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              He saw a nuclear war coming and he used his space satellite techno-prowess to stop it. We can only be grateful he was there to head it off, or you wouldn’t even be able to type stupid things on the internet anymore

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                So, he’s the final arbiter of nuclear war? Not you know, someone in the military, not someone who actually knows anything about war. A single private citizen who just happens to have a ton of money and power. Uh huh.

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                  Well if Castro got what he wanted, he would have launched nukes in the 60s. But russia didnt give him the codes

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                  He has more money because he knows the most about everything. Nobody in the military is as successful as Elon

            • jarfil@lemmy.world
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              Is he? Did the US Government issue an order to attack Russian assets? Even Russian assets on Ukrainian soil? Even to support any Ukrainian effort to attack Russian assets?

              So far it’s been a “we give Ukraine some stuff and intel, and let them do the fighting while keeping a semblance of plausible deniability”.

              Sounds more like a direct involvement in the attack, would’ve been undermining the US Government.

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        Exactly, you can’t have your cake and eat it - if we want to live in a sane and moral world we shouldn’t let private citizens own things that are important, especially not satellite infrastructure