• Maggoty@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    Why are we keeping them in such poor conditions if they’re already sick? Why aren’t they in hospitals?

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      “in custody deaths” means deaths while under the supervision of ICE. That could be detained at an ICE facility or in a hospital “while being detained”.

      If you got arrested by your local police for something and were in jail, but got sick so they send you to the hospital (with a cop escort usually)…then you died there. That counts as “in custody”.

      So don’t conflate in-custody with “not being sent to hospitals”.

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        Oh I’m not conflating anything. Between the immigration advocates and the government agency caught committing human rights abuses I’m going to believe the immigration advocates. They don’t send them to hospitals.

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      The article states there are on-site medical practitioners and facilities. I think they’re suggesting there’s no practice in place if a detainee needs advanced medical care.

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          “Comprehensive medical care is provided from the moment individuals arrive and throughout the entirety of their stay,” the agency said in the statement, as well as in previous statements following detainee deaths. “All people in ICE custody receive medical, dental and mental health intake screening within 12 hours of arriving at each detention facility, a full health assessment within 14 days of entering ICE custody or arrival at a facility, and access to medical appointments and 24-hour emergency care. At no time during detention is a detained noncitizen denied emergent care.”

          Again, it’s about them not having access to advanced medical care. If a detainee needs an MRI, CT, colonoscopy, etc. there is no practice in place for relocation to a medical facility.

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            And I’m saying the guys known for spraying detainees with so much pesticide they were bleeding from their orifices aren’t going to tell you they don’t give anyone any actual medical care. They have an army medic that gets 5 minutes to look at them through the bars. And that’s only when they get one assigned to them.

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                Here’s an article about their use of pesticide.

                Here’s an article about the medical care conditions.

                Of note, “take Motrin and drink water”, is a bit of dark humor you find in the Army because care can be hard to access in the field and the mission often takes priority. It’s not supposed to be actual medical advice.

                Biden should be shutting these places down. Instead he’s about to feed them even more people.

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                  That’s horrific.

                  Plaintiffs say they found blood in their mouths and saliva, suffered from debilitating headaches, felt dizzy and lightheaded, and now deal with long-term chronic health issues as a result of their exposure to the chemical.

                  The atrocity below unsurprisingly happened under Trump’s Title 42 criminal oppression.

                  Last week, a nurse at a privately run immigration-detention facility in Irwin County, Georgia, filed a whistle-blower complaint alleging that women at the facility were undergoing hysterectomies without their informed consent.

                  So we can add forced sterilization to the list of horrors like physically and sexually abusing hundreds of children. The only thing more insane than Trump enacting it, was the Supreme Court blocking Biden’s attempt to end it.

                  https://www.politico.com/news/2022/12/27/supreme-court-blocks-lifting-of-title-42-border-policy-00075650

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                    The thing is, that system hasn’t been reformed. Nobody got fired, no contracts got cancelled. This is also the day to day under Biden, just with a little less pesticide.