• kescusay@lemmy.worldM
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    11
    arrow-down
    3
    ·
    5 months ago

    Why?

    Because Iran is a Russian ally and Russian proxy.

    Biden is doing this - he is threatening the ICC and ICJ

    No, he isn’t. Where in the world are you getting the idea that he’s literally “threatening” either?

    Biden is not doing this. We have not stopped weapon shipments and have clearly been unable (more like unwilling) to stop or prevent Israel’s genocide

    Dude, we temporarily halted shipments earlier this month to put pressure on Netanyahu. Were you sleeping?

    Also, Israel is not our ally. Their geopolitical interests align with Putin. Which is why they are trying to get Trump elected so that they can destroy the remnants of the “rules based international order” and begin in earnest their conquest of Greater Israel

    Netanyahu’s interests may align with Putin, but only insofar as both seem hell-bent on destabilizing the region. Putin would gladly let Iran stroll right into Israel and slaughter everyone in it. Israel’s own actual interests do not remotely align with Putin’s.

    • beardown@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      4
      arrow-down
      11
      ·
      5 months ago

      Because Iran is a Russian ally and Russian proxy.

      Yes, but why does that mean stopping US weapons shipments to Israel would cause Iran to invade/attack/etc? Israel has a huge weapons stockpile and is still a Western ally - they just happen to be committing genocide with American funds and bombs.

      Where in the world are you getting the idea that he’s literally “threatening” either?

      https://www.ft.com/content/6700a246-e0cd-49d8-b5ef-d2379e86290f

      “The administration of President Joe Biden will work with Congress on possible sanctions against the International Criminal Court after its prosecutor announced it was seeking arrest warrants for senior Israeli and Hamas officials, US secretary of state Antony Blinken said on Tuesday.”

      we temporarily halted shipments earlier this month to put pressure on Netanyahu

      We resumed those shipments and funds, and Israel has since crossed Biden’s red line and attacked Rafah

      Netanyahu’s interests may align with Putin

      Netanyahu/Likud are dictators who control Israel. Until he/they are removed, their interests are Israel’s interests. Which means that Israel is a Russian asset with a stranglehold on American funds thanks to AIPAC

      • davidagain@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        10
        ·
        5 months ago

        I’d just like to remind you folks the headline you’re debating under:

        Nikki Haley writes ‘finish them’ on IDF artillery shells during Israel visit

        • beardown@lemm.ee
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          arrow-down
          9
          ·
          5 months ago

          Biden/Dems sent the genocide bombs and Haley/Republicans autographed them.

          I’m not sure how that improves things

          • davidagain@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            8
            ·
            5 months ago

            US presidents are required by American law since 2008 to ensure that Israel is better armed than all its neighbours. Biden doesn’t have a real choice unless he can get a bill through both houses to stop arming Israel. I don’t think that’s even remotely realistic.

            Trump would be twice as bad for Palestine. “Finish them” is an actual call to genocide.

            But you don’t care for facts, you just want to blame Biden for everything that you think left wingers might not like so they’ll not vote and Trump can get in.

              • davidagain@lemmy.world
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                4
                arrow-down
                1
                ·
                edit-2
                5 months ago

                Sounds like Nikki Haley is supposed to be fined half a million dollars in that there anti genocide law you linked to:

                Whoever directly and publicly incites another to violate subsection (a) shall be fined not more than $500,000 or imprisoned not more than five years, or both.

                I don’t think you can interpret Nikki Haley writing “finish them” on an Israeli bomb as anything other than a call to genocide.

                Sorry if that interrupts your attempt to make this news article not about Nikki Haley writing “finish them” on an Israeli bomb.

                • beardown@lemm.ee
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  1
                  arrow-down
                  2
                  ·
                  5 months ago

                  But she obviously will never be charged. Ever.

                  Genocide is bad because it’s evil, not because it’s illegal. Idk why you’re fixated on laws here

                  • davidagain@lemmy.world
                    link
                    fedilink
                    English
                    arrow-up
                    2
                    ·
                    edit-2
                    5 months ago

                    Which would make Nikki Haley writing “finish them” on an Israeli bomb when Israel is already bombing vast numbers of civilians in Gaza about the most obvious, public and and direct call to completed genocide you could make, I think.

                    Do you think she did it to make it more likely she’d be picked as Trump’s running mate/Secretary of State, or do you think she’s just pitching early to be the post-Trump leader, or is she just a run of the mill genocidal maniac?