• MoistMogwai@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    17
    ·
    1 year ago

    It’s possible, but as much as people are exhausted with Biden, nothing would get blue to turn out to vote like another chance of Trump. Blue would vote for a tent full of mosquitoes if it meant voting against Trump. Trump supporters have gotten more fanatical, not more numerous. Some of my own family members are currently in orange pill recovery. Not to mention all the Reds that died of COVID denial. Then you factor in young people now eligible to vote skewing blue. The only person I think Trump could beat honestly would be Hillary. Red would show up to vote against her if not for Trump.

    • FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      11
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      1 year ago

      That was the argument people made for Hillary’s certain victory on Election Day, that the notion of Trump being elected would mean a huge Democratic turnout.

      Thing is, people aren’t going to give a shit who the candidate of change is when they can’t afford their grocery bills, and Trump isn’t going to have to lie about how little Biden has done to alleviate people’s poverty.

      • some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        11
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        1 year ago

        I didn’t vote when it was Hillary or Tbag. I hated both. But I’ll keep voting to protect against him happening again. It’s exactly what the dems are counting on, and it’s unfortunately working on me.

        Still waiting to see who I’ll vote for in primaries, though. My vote only counts there in my state.

          • some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            1 year ago

            I recall that she supported some regulation of the internet that I considered harmful. I can’t recall the specifics anymore.

            • Isthisreddit@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              4
              ·
              edit-2
              1 year ago

              I ask because the republicans viewed her as a threat from the time she was first lady (she wanted universal healthcare - which she almost got, but the rightwing defeated her by talking about a republican vision/plan for an individual mandate, which was basically obamacare, she talked about women’s rights, she was pulling her husband to the left on some issues, etc). They knew she had the type of balls to run for president and the Hillary hate propaganda machine has been running strong for over 20+ years, because they were scared she would win. That’s why I’m wondering what got you to hate her - what tactic of their hate machine do you think worked on you?

              Edit - and I hope you understand conservatives would destroy the internet as it is, and they have been trying

              • some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                2
                ·
                1 year ago

                It wasn’t any tactic they used. I read an article where she talked about policy she wanted implemented during her first term that I thought showed a basic misunderstanding of the internet. Unfortunately, I can’t remember what it was to share. But I didn’t think Trump stood any chance of winning so I withheld my vote and have regretted that ever since.

            • ToastyMedic@reddthat.com
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              3
              arrow-down
              9
              ·
              edit-2
              1 year ago

              A green vote is a green vote.

              A libertarian vote is a libertarian vote.

              An independent vote is an indepdent vote.

              How about we get better candidates from both mainstream parties if they actually want swing voters, rather than painting their opposition as a bunch of shitbags. (Mind you, both parties are shitbags who force unpopular policies).

              • mrnotoriousman@kbin.social
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                7
                ·
                1 year ago

                Ideally that would be in the case, but in reality with FPTP your vote for Green has the same effect as a vote for Trump. I’m much farther left than the Dems, but until we have a revolution that’s just how it is.

      • MoistMogwai@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        4
        ·
        1 year ago

        I’m not saying it won’t be close. My parents who voted for him complain about how often they get asked to donate to his campaign slash legal fund. I don’t think that’s a great look if it’s about grocery money.

        I remember 2016. Bernie bros felt maybe rightfully so that he got shafted in the primary. Many didn’t turn out. Trump as obvious of a con man as he was to us, was a successful business man to many centrist voters. I think that illusion has mostly faded. On top of that people on the right were programmed to hate Hillary since the 90s. The vitriol for Trump now is the best shot Biden has, and I think it’s enough.

    • Asafum@feddit.nl
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      2
      arrow-down
      3
      ·
      1 year ago

      While I agree with most of that, I thought it was shown recently that younger people are skewing right. Internet propaganda has been super effective lately it seems :/