• rhacer@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    I can’t stand President Biden. I wouldn’t vote for him if he were the last candidate on earth. But, really? This man is the President, and you couldn’t do him the courtesy of sitting quietly and listening to what he has to say?

    That behavior is beyond my comprehension.

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      6 months ago

      I’m legitimately surprised that so few of the trolls have hit on the idea of coming in being fake pro-establishment. Like if there were more people here being super pro-Israel and doing the “Hamas is lying about casualties” “what on earth is Israel supposed to do, not defend themselves” talking points, to provide some justification for all the other trolls claiming that Lemmy is filled with pro-genocide-ers and they’re just doing their part sticking up for the unrepresented Palestinian viewpoint – I think if I were running an influence campaign I would probably sprinkle in some of those people, too.

      I think “of course Joe Biden is dogshit, we all agree on that of course, but by God you better sit up and salute when he’s around, signed, your friendly Lemmy authoritarian person, fuck the protestors” is a likely candidate for one of those. If this is genuinely how you look at it though, have you considered reaching out to some of the shills and seeing if maybe you can get paid for posting this stuff? I think this would be a good tactical addition to what they’re doing.

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          I can’t open X links; I’m on Firefox and it’s fucked on Firefox now and I don’t really feel like hopping around on browsers just to keep Elon Musk happy. I’m happy to look at it if you can find it somewhere else. I did search for the quote and I didn’t find anything.

          You wanna address the thing with the second part of the headline, though? Because I’m not real sure I trust “freedomrideblog” on Twitter and I would want to know more details about how Biden’s campaign is using the speech, and all that, but it definitely looks like part of the headline you posted was objectively a lie. No?

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                Among those issues, according to people familiar with the discussions, was student worry that their achievements would be overshadowed by a stump speech. They have expressed frustration that the format of the event and the level of security required for such a high-profile visit resulted in limited tickets for family members, many of whom would be required to watch from an overflow room.

                Stephen Benjamin, the president’s director of public engagement who conducted the meeting, says Biden is intent on keeping the focus on the graduates.

                https://sg.news.yahoo.com/biden-team-consulted-prominent-morehouse-201357782.html

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                  So we’re moving goalposts and just straight-up refusing to answer a simple question about why it seems like the thing you posted was not just misleadingingly framed, but actually false. Sounds good.

                  I do understand that I haven’t been real polite to you and it creates a certain pressure to “get a win” by making some kind of counterpoint. Mission accomplished, I guess. Biden did actually give the speech he was invited to give, even though he’s also campaigning and that makes things more complicated in some ways. It’s true. You caught him.

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                    6 months ago

                    Biden’s losing black support, of course he’s going to pander. Did you watch the speech? I honestly have no idea how he’s expected to make it another 4 years. It’s elder abuse at this point.

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        6 months ago

        Except no because the fact that he’s President while campaigning still matters. It absolutely affects how he behaves.