“We have to stop destroying the planet as we feed ourselves,” a World Bank official said, as red meat and dairy drive CO2 emissions.

Cows and milk are out, chicken and broccoli are in — if the World Bank has its way, that is.

In a new paper, the international financial lender suggests repurposing the billions rich countries spend to boost CO2-rich products like red meat and dairy for more climate-friendly options like poultry, fruits and vegetables. It’s one of the most cost-effective ways to save the planet from climate change, the bank argues.

The politically touchy recommendation — sure to make certain conservatives and European countries apoplectic — is one of several suggestions the World Bank offers to cut climate-harming pollution from the agricultural and food sectors, which are responsible for nearly a third of global greenhouse gas emissions.

The paper comes at a diplomatically strategic moment, as countries signed on to the Paris Agreement — the global pact calling to limit global warming to 1.5 degrees Celsius — prepare to update their climate plans by late 2025.

  • Ekybio@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    78
    arrow-down
    4
    ·
    6 months ago

    I cant wait for some conservative idiot to spin this in the worst possible way. Mixed in with some lies, whataubout-isms and straw-mans for a delicious disinformation-coktail!

    • mynachmadarch@kbin.social
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      48
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      6 months ago

      Florida has already started the “they’re coming for our meat” with the lab grown meat ban if you haven’t seen.

      • SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        24
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        6 months ago

        In Europe soy milk can’t legally be called milk anymore. It’s Soy Drink on the packaging. The farmers won that one. Now they’re coming after vegi burgers allowed to be called burgers.

        • Tiefling IRL@lemmy.blahaj.zone
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          20
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          6 months ago

          My arguments to “if it’s not from an animal or isn’t milk” are:

          1. What do you call the white liquid inside a coconut?
          2. What do you call the laxative/antacid that comes in a blue bottle?
        • Hacksaw@lemmy.ca
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          13
          arrow-down
          3
          ·
          6 months ago

          They won’t win burger or sausage or anything like that. You can already put what you want in those, breadcrumbs, vegetable protein, fruits and vegetables, various flavours and spices, and it’s still a burger/sausage.

          The milk I get. Milk was highly controlled in terms of what adultrants were allowed, so when they say “we can’t even add extra aspartame, but they can make the whole thing out of oats?” They get a lot of traction. Now why they wanted to add aspartame I don’t have a fucking clue.

          https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2013/03/06/173618723/can-milk-sweetened-with-aspartame-still-be-called-milk

          • Num10ck@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            20
            ·
            6 months ago

            milk-like plant juices or saps have been called milk since 1200. such as milk of magnesia, milk of almond

            • Hacksaw@lemmy.ca
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              5
              ·
              6 months ago

              That’s very true.

              I’m just saying that Milk is a regulated term that’s already been used to stop the milk industry from misbehaving so it’s easy for the milk industry to use it to keep out competitors. Burgers, sausages, and other highly mixed foods aren’t regulated the same way and I don’t expect the meat industry to have any success on those fronts outside of rogue states like Florida.

          • Nachorella@lemmy.sdf.org
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            6
            ·
            6 months ago

            Stuff like this is so silly. I understand having rules around how things are named, nobody wants to be misled about what they’re buying. But were cow juice enthusiasts really getting tricked into buying soy juice? Do we have to specify the animal? Can I sell rat milk as ‘milk’ and they’d be ok? What’s the difference between that and oat milk? So long as the origin of the milk is clear I really don’t see the issue.

            Obviously I know it’s just dairy industry deep pockets doing what they can to remain #1 but it’s just so silly.

            • Hacksaw@lemmy.ca
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              7
              arrow-down
              1
              ·
              6 months ago

              Well it was originally designed to stop the dairy industry from putting weird stuff in milk, so there definitely a need because they kept trying to put weird stuff in it.

              • Nachorella@lemmy.sdf.org
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                5
                ·
                6 months ago

                That part I understand, no more formaldehyde and brains in the milk. It’s more the industry fighting against the term being used for alternative milks which should have their own standards associated with them. Coconut milk and cream have existed for ages and nobody cares. But my (dairy farmer) family all of a sudden have really strong opinions on using the term milk for alternative milks. Or other generic terms being used for vegan products like mince, sausage, burger, steak. All of these things typically have a word in front to describe what they’re made of, but for some reason certain people get real worked up when that word is ‘vegetable’.

                • Hacksaw@lemmy.ca
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  5
                  arrow-down
                  1
                  ·
                  6 months ago

                  Being a regulator is like being a teacher. There is one kids who keeps putting crayons in his nose so you make a no crayons in your nose rule to stop him and it works great until this one kid uses crayons in nostrils to make amazing pictures for a talent show and suddenly the first kid says “hey I thought you said no nose crayons, why is she allowed crayons now”

                  The main problem is that it’s actually super hard to have a regulatory definition of “milk” that forces the dairy industry to not put stuff in milk, but also allows up to 100% of the product to be oats.

                  Vegan steak will be difficult for the same reasons. But I would guess vegan sausage, burgers, nuggets, boneless wings etc… will be very easy to approve since some products are already more fillers than meat already lol!

                  • AA5B@lemmy.world
                    link
                    fedilink
                    English
                    arrow-up
                    3
                    ·
                    edit-2
                    6 months ago

                    Simple. “Milk” is different from “soy milk”, just like “milk” is different from “sweetened milk” (in what godforsaken realm is aspartame in milk?). How is this not already handled?

              • jumjummy@lemmy.world
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                2
                arrow-down
                1
                ·
                6 months ago

                This problem is worse with cheese, using words like “cheese product” or “butter flavoring” for butter. Nobody is getting confused about Oat milk not being from cows, but these “not quite cheese” products are misleading.

        • Rozz@lemmy.sdf.org
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          4
          ·
          6 months ago

          what’s a better name we could come up with for Soy Drink? we just need a new word

        • illi@lemm.ee
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          6 months ago

          This drivesme nuts. On the other hand I enjoy the companies working around it such as calling their products “Not M*lk” and such.

        • barsoap@lemm.ee
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          arrow-down
          5
          ·
          edit-2
          6 months ago

          Not “anymore” it never could be called that. Figures that soy beverages are not a product containing excretions of mammary glands.

          Next up: You can’t call salt sugar. Oh the tyranny!

          …things like coconut milk got grandfathered in based on local usage when the regulation was enacted, in any case that was before Alpro started to sell you 4ct of plants and 0.0001ct of water for three Euros.

      • lost_faith@lemmy.ca
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        4
        ·
        6 months ago

        That’s stupid. I’d take lab grown meat, the vegemeats are ok, but I crave real meat and this is best for all. Less land dedicated to animal farming (they can actually graze and live their lives cruelty free) and less farm land for livestock feed(i forget how much land is used to feed our food)? That means even more food grown directly for us, isn’t this the goal?

    • BassTurd@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      3
      ·
      6 months ago

      Iowa did something already last year being a major pork producer. Kim Reynolds and her GOP ilk fucking suck. Already ruined and continuing to destroy a once nice and progressive state with shitty policy and hate. Remember when Iowa was at the front of gay marriage? I miss being proud of at last some of the changes coming from here, now I can’t get if here fast enough. Finally got a WFH position, now I just need to convince my wife that she can fly back to see her parents that live about 3 hours away as is.

      • postmateDumbass@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        4
        ·
        6 months ago

        Iowa was at the front of gay marriage?

        I still can hear the podcasts about America’s growing homosexual corn problem. Even if they never happened.