• ImADifferentBird@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        6 months ago

        What am I, the answer man?

        Our society is broken. It doesn’t give a lot of great alternatives. I’m trying to do what I can about that. But I can’t change the fact that you really shouldn’t call the police on somebody unless you’re prepared for them to be killed, because that’s what the police do. That much should be clear by now.

        If you want your loved ones in crisis to be murdered, by all means, call the cops on them.

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          6 months ago

          What am I, the answer man?

          No you’re Just Asking Questions, right? Why should you have to provide a justification to where you get off victim blaming on these issues?

          Ignoring that Win called the cops on himself (isn’t it depressing how reliable a method of suicide that’s become…) because that’s a whole different issue, what you’re telling people to do is that they should just… cope? Maybe there’s a homeopathic cure for mania! I sure haven’t found one, but if someone’s got a clue they can stick it up their ass, fuck homeopaths please let me know, because I’d love a cure for my manic episodes.

          I’ve had the cops called on me, and I can’t blame my family for doing it. They weren’t, and aren’t, equipped to deal with that. I hope you’re never in the position to find out exactly how scary it can be when someone you love is having a “severe mental health crisis” (in most cases, that’s a cringy euphemism for “being a terrifyingly unhinged, violent lunatic”). I also work in forensic mental health management (that’s what “trying to do what I can” actually looks like, btw) so I can professionally say that calling the cops on family is never: someone’s first choice, an easy choice, a choice that in a similar situation you wouldn’t also make.

          You’re not equipped to deal with this kind of disaster, nobody is. That’s a big part of why it falls on the police, because at least they’ve got the tools to maybe stop it without killing someone. It’s like the godzilla threshold - the situation is so bad that maybe calling in godzilla as backup will do slightly more good than harm. It’s going to be a disaster either way, but maybe it will be a smaller one. This isn’t the way it should be, and my god do I hope the few attempts to fix this we’re only now able to implement might prove to start working, but it is the way it is right now.

          I know this isn’t going to change your mind, I’ve talked to enough people like you to know that you’re not going to be predisposed to introspection, but I just sincerely hope you never get put in a situation that makes you realize what an ignorant tool you sound like when you talk about this issue.

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            6 months ago

            Who the fuck is victim blaming? Who the fuck is Just Asking Questions? I’m just saying, calling the cops on somebody at this point is like pointing a loaded gun at them. Absolutely do not do it to anybody you are not prepared to kill.

            Yes, the situation is insane. Yes, it should not be that way. But that is the way it is.

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              6 months ago

              You seem to keep missing the fact that they called the cops on themselves.

              I agree that calling the cops during a mental health crisis could end very badly, but this person apparently wanted it to end very badly.

              You can’t really stop someone from calling the cops to report themselves.