• mean_bean279@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    The entire bottom paragraph of what you said is entirely wrong. I support Palestine and stopping Israel, but a majority of Jewish people (62%) in the US are fine with the war and the direction it’s going in. As are most Americans. Your point of not having majority rule is true to some extent, but it’s hard to argue that while also knowing that not respecting Majority rule is how we got the first trump administration… Data

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      6 months ago

      As are most Americans.

      Weird to correct someone and then just add in an extra bonus fact that’s wrong. Unless you’re claiming “not sure” is “fine with”, which it isn’t. “Fine with” is “acceptable”.

      About four-in-ten U.S. adults (38%) say Israel’s conduct of the war has been acceptable, and 34% say it has been unacceptable. The remaining 26% are unsure.

      And more importantly, these aren’t random samples of the population. Dem/Lean Dem respondents said Israel’s conduct is unacceptable by 52-22.

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      6 months ago

      https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2024/02/25/biden-election-jews-evangelicals-support-gaza-ceasefire/72672589007/

      It’s a bit more complicated I think and the polling is pretty close. Here’s a survey from about a month ago that puts the divide closer to 50/50. I suppose a better way to word my last paragraph is either “half a minority” or “a portion of a minority”.

      I did want to highlight the Jewish community’s opinion though because I think the division there is extremely telling - and because I know the evangelical community is all in on genocide but, imo: they’re a bunch of fucking idiots, I don’t care what they think, and their opinions are irrelevant to politics because most of them will vote for Trump come hell or high water.

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          6 months ago

          I don’t disagree - but in terms of this election everyone who considers themselves a Trump republican is unswayable… but there are a lot of folks outraged at Netanyahu who may refuse to vote at all.

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              6 months ago

              You’ll not hear any disagreements from me - but even here on lemmy you’ll find people who are planning to refrain from voting because they morally object to voting for someone who is supporting genocide. That’s a very fair morale stance in the abstract but in this case you’ve got two real choices and choosing not to vote is inviting even more death.

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                6 months ago

                You’re right, and it’s sad. They really don’t understand how much worse it’ll be if they put their pride in front of the polls. I’m voting reluctantly out of fear of the repercussions of another Trump presidency, and I’m older than average on here. They have so much more to lose that won’t just “come back” with the next election.