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      Let me guess, as an average lemmy user the chances are pretty high you are a white male in early adulthood, probably living off a very concerning diet but not gaining weight because of some genetical inability to build up fat.

      Like, thats me, but I am aware of it. People can get fat if they eat as much as I do, which is not even much. Get a hold of your privileges dude.

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        People can get fat if they eat as much as I do

        Then its up to those people to fucking get out of their asses and exercise. It’s one thing to be fat because of a health issue like hypothyroidism, and a whole different thing to choose being fat. In either case, you can’t really demand people to think an unhealthy, droopy and blobby body is beautiful, all you can ask is for people to not be rude about it.

        Here’s a very apt comparison: I suffer from hyperhidrosis, a condition which makes me sweat 100% of the time regarless of temperature. Which do you think more reasonable: that I wear deodorant, refresh myself and shower often; or that I demand people to live with and enjoy my body odour?

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          Diet is the major part of it, you don’t burn a ton or calories through exercise to be honest. You need to be working from a deficit to get anywhere

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            It’s objectively more effective to exercise more than to eat less. There are countless studies on the subject.

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              Mind sending one? Way I’ve understood it, a calorie deficit is the major thing you need to lose fat consistently. Obviously don’t overdo it, obviously exercise as well, and some things like protein are better than others. At the end of the day though, you work on a deficit and you’ll lose fat, have an excess and you won’t

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          It’s one thing to be fat because of a health

          I’d argue it’s a mental health issue.

          Edit: I did not clearly represent my point. I meant that even overweight people without physical health issues are likely dealing with some unresolved mental health issues as well. And I say that sympathetically.

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            Hypothyroidism happens when the thyroid gland doesn’t make enough thyroid hormone

            yup, sounds very psychological to me

            also like… a mental health issue is also a health issue?

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              That’s not what I meant. I understand what hypohyroidism is. I just meant overweight people without something physical like that are probably going through something mentally. Is that controversial?

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        I’m actually a 31 year old female living together with my bf and cat. I’m going to the gym about 2 to 3 times a week since a few months. My bmi at this moment is 24.1 which is still quite high but I’m getting there.

        All I did was say fat. If that offended you, go to the gym.

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          BMI is kinda bogus, it doean’t take into account muscle vs fat. At peak working out with small waist, but visible muscle mass my chart BMI was Obese

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            I agree about BMI often being a bad measurement. Even my own doctors ignore it on me because my BMI is well into the obese range and yet every other measurement of health is in the healthy range, most well into it. My body fat for instance is just below 30%, which is perfectly healthy for a woman. My waist line is well into healthy range as well. Additionally, all my tests such as blood tests come back more than healthy and show that I’m not at risk for any obesity related conditions. Of course, I don’t look like the standard “healthy” body most people imagine a woman should have. I would look fat to anyone who doesn’t know the full picture.
            That’s why I always hated that whole thing people say that “If you’re BMI is high and you’re still healthy it’ll be really obvious.” People just assume that high BMI and healthy means muscular, when you can have a normal body fat percentage as well as other measurements but still have a high BMI.
            This is even ignoring the fact that even when you are genuinely obese and unhealthy, it often stems from body image issues in the first place. The same way a depressed person often goes “I’m doing everything wrong anyway so why bother even trying?” A fat person often is having the struggle of “I’m ugly anyway so why even bother trying to be pretty and healthy? Healthy just means I gotta live longer being ugly.” That’s why berating people for being fat usually doesn’t work. It just makes them feel worse and reinforces that idea they already have that they’re too ugly to bother. Sure, some people it might kick into gear to try their best to lose weight to prove they’re not ugly, but that’s the difference between somebody who still has hope and somebody that’s already lost it all.

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              Yep agreed. I had a laugh when we got our Wii sports, and the weigh-in made my Mii fat, which didn’t represent my shape. But a bad UX from Nintendo on that.

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        Hahahaha, I love how the OP just smacked your little made up anecdote down