Members of the House committee that investigated the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol have warned America for three years to take former President Donald Trump at his word.

Now, as Trump is poised to win the Republican presidential nomination, his criminal trials face delays that could stall them past Election Day, and his rhetoric grows increasingly authoritarian, some of those lawmakers find themselves following their own advice.

In mid-March, Trump said on social media that the committee members should be jailed. In December he vowed to be a dictator on “day one.” In August, he said he would “have no choice” but to lock up his political opponents.

“If he intends to eliminate our constitutional system and start arresting his political enemies, I guess I would be on that list,” said Rep. Zoe Lofgren (D-San Jose). “One thing I did learn on the committee is to pay attention and listen to what Trump says, because he means it.”

Lofgren added that she doesn’t yet have a plan in place to thwart potential retribution by Trump. But Rep. Adam B. Schiff (D-Burbank), who has long been a burr in Trump’s side, said he’s having “real-time conversations” with his staff about how to make sure he stays safe if Trump follows through on his threats.

“We’re taking this seriously, because we have to,” Schiff said. “We’ve seen this movie before … and how perilous it is to ignore what someone is saying when they say they want to be a dictator.”

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    Once again, I addressed your point and I stated my opinion of your intellect. I’m not using any personal attacks to deflect from what you said. And since you’re still having trouble with what’s being explained to you in a myriad different ways, I’ll try again.

    Either Trump is an aberration, and he’s being investigated because he’s uniquely guilty, or he’s representative of the US politicians in general and the investigation spotlight happened to fall on him in particular because of political reasons. If Trump gets in power he will simply direct the legal system to investigate other people the same way he’s being investigated. Evidently this concept is so hard for you to grasp the you spent three days struggling with it.

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      The fact that you think your previous post has any value speaks volumes of the low quality of the rest of your posts.

      Either Trump is an aberration, and he’s being investigated because he’s uniquely guilty,

      And we’re making progress! We’ve acknowledged at least the possibility that Trump is more guilty than everyone else! Nothing in your post dismisses this possibility but you seem to forget it exists in the very next sentence.

      So let’s not get distracted here, try to focus just a little bit longer: if Trump is a “uniquely guilty aberration” that would mean…
      a) the investigation into him was completely valid.
      b) his investigation into other people would be invalid and just done for revenge. Or
      c) all of the above?

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        I love how you keep doubling down on your straw man. My point is that it’s completely irrelevant how valid investigation into Trump is or whether he’s guilty or not. What I’m trying to explain to you, and you’re aggressively failing to understand, is that you can have a similar type of valid investigation into any US politician because there’s nothing special about Trump specifically.

        The legal spotlight has been put onto Trump and he’s being investigated, but once Trump is in power he’ll move that spotlight to other people and they will be investigated. If you still can’t understand that the only thing that matters here is whom the legal system starts looking into, then there’s no helping you.

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          The legal spotlight wasn’t put on Trump because people don’t like him. There was evidence of a crime so the spotlight was put on the potential crime, and Trump was there standing in the spotlight.

          That’s the difference. Trump wants to put the spotlight on people because he doesn’t like them, and hopes to find a crime (or make one up) by doing so.

          Trump wants to investigate people until he finds crimes.
          Trump’s charges came from people investigating crimes until they found the person responsible.
          If you can’t tell the difference there’s no helping you.

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            There was evidence of a crime so the spotlight was put on the potential crime, and Trump was there standing in the spotlight.

            And once again, if the justice system starts looking into other politicians, they will also find sufficient evidence for potential crime because Trump is not an outlier.

            That’s the difference. Trump wants to put the spotlight on people because he doesn’t like them, and hopes to find a crime (or make one up) by doing so.

            Believing this requires thinking that Trump is somehow uniquely criminal.

            Trump wants to investigate people until he finds crimes. Trump’s charges came from people investigating crimes until they found the person responsible. If you can’t tell the difference there’s no helping you.

            That is literally what the democrats are doing right now. If you think that investigations into Trump were started for anything other than political reasons then you’re an incredibly naive individual.

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              And once again, if the justice system starts looking into other politicians, they will also find sufficient evidence for potential crime because Trump is not an outlier.

              And once again we come to the topic of evidence. There is evidence of Trump committing crimes, hence the trials. There is not evidence for other politicians other than “because you say so” which is an even weaker fallacy than an Appeal to Popularity. I will not entertain your vague claims with nothing to back to them up.

              Believing this requires thinking that Trump is somehow uniquely criminal.

              The entire criminal system is based on the idea that people can be “uniquely criminal”. Otherwise everyone would be in jail or there wouldn’t be crimes.

              If you think that investigations into Trump were started for anything other than political reasons then you’re an incredibly naive individual.

              The investigations into Trump stated with “we are investigating this specific crime” and the charges that came from it were related to the specific crime being investigated. They didn’t start investigating Trump in general to see what crimes fell out.

              Does Trump have specific crimes he wants to investigate people for?

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                There is not evidence for other politicians other than “because you say so” which is an even weaker fallacy than an Appeal to Popularity. I will not entertain your vague claims with nothing to back to them up.

                If you don’t look there’s no evidence is a really hard concept for you to grasp isn’t it.

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                  Reading comprehension isn’t your strong suit is it?

                  You don’t investigate people you don’t like hoping crimes will fall out. You investigate crimes and see what people it leads to.

                  “They’re totally criminals, trust me bro.” Is not legally actionable or Trump would already be in prison.

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                    Nah, my reading comprehension is just fine. I’m just pointing out that you don’t seem to understand how Trump became investigated in the first place. They don’t just spin a big wheel to decide whom to look into. Somebody decides to look into a particular person, and then they find things that are actionable and investigate them. This is precisely how Trump will investigate his political opponents as well. It’s so adorable that you don’t even understand how Trump came under investigation in the first place.

                    If you think there’s nothing legally actionable on any US politician, then send me a DM cause I have a nice bridge to sell you.