• Cethin@lemmy.zip
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    8 months ago

    We have to allow the Nazis to speak or else we’re racist against white people!

    This has absolutely nothing to do with them being Jewish. It has to do with them being complicit in a genocide. Zionists can be Jewish or not and Jews can be Zionists or not. They aren’t the same thing.

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      8 months ago

      The specific Zionists you are accusing of genocide are themselves Jews, specifically Jews who are the children and grandchildren of holocaust survivors.

      Israel didn’t declare war on Oct. 7. Hamas did.

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        The war didn’t start on October 7th though, it started when Zionist terrorists started settling in Palestine and committing atrocities against the local Palestinians and the British. If we could pick and choose when to start history, one could argue that the holocaust was justified because everything was peaceful until the Warsaw ghetto uprising, and just conveniently ignore why the Warsaw ghetto existed in the first place.

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        8 months ago

        I would say the war started when Jewish settlers started purchasing farms and refused to hire anyone but Jews. It ripped any possibility of survival from the people who traditionally worked those farms. It forced their only hope to be fighting back.

        For a time both Jews and Arabs lived together peacefully, and the first Kibbutz seemed to want to work together and free the workers from the oppression of the traditional landowners. Once they started only hiring Jews there was no going back. This was the end of peace, and it was started by the Jewish settlers. Oct 7th 2023 is only a small moment in a much larger conflict.