• ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
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    8 months ago

    We know that because western ships aren’t able to take this route successfully. Western ships either go around or they get attacked at which point they either end up being sunk or turn around. The impact is very visible https://www.spglobal.com/marketintelligence/en/mi/research-analysis/supply-chain-red-sea-shipping-disruptions-impact.html

    Yemen doesn’t need naval ships or planes. They have missiles and drones which is enough to cover the area. Meanwhile, even US military is now complaining that shooting multi million dollar missiles at thousand dollar drones is not practical. The whole US strategy is being invalidated by new technology. US navy is a dinosaur.

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      8 months ago

      I mean the route still not being safe for shipping doesn’t mean they have no impact. Just not enough to make it safe.

      Yemen doesn’t need naval ships or planes

      Not that those would do them any good, they’d get wrecked. Much better off with lobbing rockets. It’s like Iraq terrorists and using roadside bombs instead of something like tanks. That’d make no sense.

      The whole US strategy is being invalidated by new technology. US navy is a dinosaur.

      True. This and Ukraine war has kinda shown how poorly a traditional navy works against drones especially. But I think Somali boat attacks and stuff like that is an even older example of how hard that sort of uneven fighting is.

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        I mean the route still not being safe for shipping doesn’t mean they have no impact. Just not enough to make it safe.

        What impact are they having, please be specific here.

        Not that those would do them any good, they’d get wrecked. Much better off with lobbing rockets. It’s like Iraq terrorists and using roadside bombs instead of something like tanks. That’d make no sense.

        Sure, US can beat a navy that plays by the same rules, but the reality is that there are cheaper options available nowadays.

        So far, the story is that Yemen is achieving their stated goals and US is not.

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          What impact are they having, please be specific here.

          Destroying parts of the Houthi capability, shooting down missiles and drones.

          Sure, US can beat a navy that plays by the same rules, but the reality is that there are cheaper options available nowadays.

          Yes that’s what I meant with this: “True. This and Ukraine war has kinda shown how poorly a traditional navy works against drones especially. But I think Somali boat attacks and stuff like that is an even older example of how hard that sort of uneven fighting is.”

          So far, the story is that Yemen is achieving their stated goals and US is not.

          I mean if the goal was to make products more expensive then absolutely.

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            No actual evidence that US managed to destroy parts of Yemeni capability. Shooting down missiles and drones isn’t having an impact because shipping is still being interdicted.

            And yes, that was literally the goal stated by Ansar Allah, they’re blockading shipping from Israel and countries that support Israel in solidarity with Palestine. Their blockade is achieving economic damage.

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              No actual evidence that US managed to destroy parts of Yemeni capability.

              But Houthis have confirmed some of the strikes. Not everything, there’s of course plenty of strikes they haven’t confirmed but that were confirmed by satellite. I’m not sure either side would claim the strikes have had no impact, just that Houthis think they can continue this longer than the US can.

              And yes, that was literally the goal stated by Ansar Allah, they’re blockading shipping from Israel and countries that support Israel in solidarity with Palestine. Their blockade is achieving economic damage.

              In that case they’ve set a pretty reasonable and achievable goal. I thought the object was to stop the Israel attack on Palestine or something tbh.

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                8 months ago

                US and Saudis have been trying to bomb Yemen into submission for like 8 years now with nothing to show for it. I don’t see why a few more air strikes are going to change anything.

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                    I’m referring to US doing strikes in Yemen, this is nothing new and this strategy showed no results over past 8 years. No reason to expect anything different going forward.