Far too often, lately, I see lots of people worried about the number of downvotes, or making preliminary justifications and requests to not downvote particular posts.

Me? I don’t have to think about any of that. The content of the posts and comments determines their quality, not some artificial number that only represents whether people dis/like something.

Edit: Wow, a lot of people from other instances seem really offended that I don’t like downvoting and seem a bit confused that I’d be thanking my admins for something I appreciate.

If you like downvoting, you don’t have to move here. Enjoy your instance’s features. Welcome to the Fediverse.

  • Tiff@reddthat.comMEnglish
    6·
    4 months ago

    That is whole hardhearted wrong, on many levels. As the Admin of reddthat I have had to learn a lot about how federation works. You do not interact with Reddthat at all, you interact with Lemmee. Lemmee then connects and interacts with Reddthat.

    For a thought experiment, if Reddthat were to block Lemmee, you could still comment on this post, you could still interact with it, you could still make new posts in this community. The downside would be that all of those actions would only be visible to Lemmee’s users and Lemmee’s version of the community. Just like how if you downvote, your downvotes are viewable on your instance, but never make it to Reddthat. Later if Reddthat were to unblock it is possible there might be some merging of posts, comments and actions and re-federation. But let me make this clear. You are not a Reddthat user, you are a Lemm.ee user.

    • Exocrinous@lemm.eeEnglish
      2·
      4 months ago

      So you’re saying if I’m using service A to access service B, I’m not using service B?

      Well in that case, I’m not using reddthat, I’m using lemm.ee, you’re right. But I’m not using lemm.ee, I’m using Voyager. Voyager is making requests to lemm.ee on my behalf. If my account were deleted or the server were offline or I were in a tunnel, my comments I wrote in Voyager wouldn’t be delivered.

      And actually I’m not even using Voyager, I’m using Android. Android simply provides a user interface to access the data on Voyager. And I’m not using Android, I’m using my phone’s screen. And I’m not using my phone’s screen, I’m using my eyes and fingers, and I’m not using my eyes and fingers, I’m using my brain.

      Congratulations, your views on software usage reducto ad absurdum into solipsism.

        • Exocrinous@lemm.eeEnglish
          2·
          4 months ago

          I’m not arguing about how Lemmy works. We both agree how Lemmy works. I’m arguing the philosophical premise that using an interface to access a remote service counts as using that service. This isn’t a technical problem, it’s philosophy. Also, appeal to authority fallacy. A very poorly done appeal to authority because the authority isn’t relevant to the question.

            • Exocrinous@lemm.eeEnglish
              1·
              4 months ago

              Yes. I do spend my day worrying about ridiculous admins who use absurd philosophical premises to justify dismissing people’s concerns.

                • Exocrinous@lemm.eeEnglish
                  1·
                  4 months ago

                  I am literally outside right now. I’ve always felt that “touch grass” and the like have this ableist connotation where you’re baselessly accusing someone of poor mental health habits. And besides, some people have disabilities that make it hard to go outside. Agoraphobia, even just plain old mobility disorders make it a bigger ask to say touch grass of go outside. I guess what you’re meaning to say is people spend too much time on the internet. It’s an insult that disproportionately gets used against queer and autistic people who will get hate crimed if they be themselves in meatspace. Being online is the reason a lot of trans people haven’t killed ourselves. I’d be dead if it wasn’t for the internet. And I cycle to work every working day, but I suppose you’d still accuse me of mental illness with intent to attack just for needing an online place to be myself. That, or you’re just repeating an anti-trans, anti-disabled cliche because you haven’t ever thought about the meaning of the words and just know it’s something mean to say to an autistic person without seeming like an arse.