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    8 months ago

    Sentencing is done within the limit of the law and, again this is not about him specifically.

    You can’t sentence someone to die by a thousand cuts because that is cruel. Which violates the Constitution. Why is this not cruel? Because it’s faster?

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      Sentencing is done within the limit of the law and, again this is not about him specifically.

      Right. And the limit of the law, in this case, is lethal injection.

      You can’t sentence someone to die by a thousand cuts because that is cruel. Which violates the Constitution. Why is this not cruel? Because it’s faster?

      I don’t make up the rules, man. But you still haven’t said what would be the ideal in this situation.

      Let him spend the rest of his life in jail (something he did not want, and already tried to kill himself over), set him free, or “other”?

      You’d still have to consider the victims in this decision, so I’m curious to know how you’d do it.

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        Right. And the limit of the law, in this case, is lethal injection.

        Which is cruel. Even if he specifically wants it. For reasons I explain.

        I don’t make up the rules, man. But you still haven’t said what would be the ideal in this situation.

        The ideal would be to do what every other civilized country on the planet does and not execute people. Even Anders Breivik wasn’t executed and he killed 77 people, many of them children. And no one in Norway who had any real influence seriously discussed bringing back the death penalty just for him. Because it is cruel.

        Even SCOTUS decided it was cruel and halted it until they reversed their decision.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Furman_v._Georgia

        You’d still have to consider the victims in this decision, so I’m curious to know how you’d do it.

        Our justice system is not about retribution. It has never been about retribution. Retribution is also unconstitutional for the same reason.

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          8 months ago

          Anders Breivik

          Not to go off-topic, but that Nazi never asked to be put to death. It seems like the only complaint he’s made about his sentence is that the Playstation he uses while in prison is outdated, and that he doesn’t get more time to make phone calls.

          [death by lethal injection] Which is cruel. Even if he specifically wants it.

          Do you view medically assisted suicide as cruel?

          If Creech asked for death by lethal injection as a form of assisted suicide, would granting that not be the embodiment of compassion towards him?

          Cruelty implies that extreme unkindness is willingly being inflicted upon another person or animal with the desire to cause pain and suffering.

          This definition does not match what we see here.

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            8 months ago

            Do you view medically assisted suicide as cruel?

            After a doctor’s assessment? No. He did not undergo such an assessment.

            There’s a reason why medical professionals do not assist with executions.

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              There’s a reason why medical professionals do not assist with executions.

              I hate to break it to you, but the article quite literally says that “medical team members” were responsible for assisting in getting the IV line into Creech.

              Harvard also says that physicians do assist (SOURCE)

              And even this cardiologist says it’s better that they do than not, even though he is against capital punishment.

              It’s certainly a debated topic in the realm of ethics, no doubt, but it still happens.

              But getting back to my question:

              If medically assisted suicide is not cruel, and Creech requested that he wanted to die via lethal injection (medically assisted suicide, since it was at his request), where do we have a problem?