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“Will you vote for Biden in the 2024 election?” [Y/N]

    • Krauerking@lemy.lol
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      8 months ago

      Biden:

      “I feel good and all I can say is, watch me, you’ll see,” he said. “It doesn’t mean I would run a second term. I’m not going to make that judgment at this moment.”

      I mean he did, then rolled back on it but before his election.
      But that’s fair I didn’t hear the rollback and he took it back before he was even elected. It doesn’t make his Staffers saying he is too old to run again in 2024 all the way back in 2019 look very good though.

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        8 months ago

        I’m not going to make that judgment at this moment

        Is not anywhere close to

        I will be a one term president

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          8 months ago

          How about:

          It doesn’t mean I would run a second term.

          Cause he said it during an interview about his age before his first election and it’s right there being ignored by you to pull a different part of his statement.

          Did he backpedal even before he was officially elected, sure did. But he was happy to imply he was thinking about single term during the race.

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            8 months ago

            It doesn’t mean I would run a second term.

            Is also not anywhere close to

            I will be a one term president

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              8 months ago

              You keep waiting for the perfect statement, trying to weasel around the fact that he didn’t directly say exactly what was implied. Even happy to pull apart the wrong parts of a sentence just to confuse the statement more.
              Him talking about he feels good for being old but just because he feels ok now doesn’t mean he will run for a second term, is him using language to imply that he is considering a single term. Which he reversed on so that the conversation wouldn’t be about how old he is.

              But I guess the card says moops.

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                8 months ago

                trying to weasel around the fact that he didn’t directly say exactly what was implied.

                I’m not trying to weasel around it, that’s my entire point. You believed he said something but he never said or meant it. It was a narrative built up by others. He was considering a single term. He never decided on a single term.

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                  8 months ago

                  I was quoting Biden! From the article about this where they talk about the interview he had before the election talking about his age and his reluctance to immediately say he was gonna run a second term! Also you respond so fast you are online way too much.

                  He didn’t mean it.
                  He was considering a single term.
                  He never decided on a single term.

                  You have an idea of the answer you want. Which makes this conversation pointless. The card says moops so ha I’m wrong because the answer isn’t perfect.

                  If he considered running for a single term and told people that, then he told people he was considering being a single term president.

                  He changed his mind because the narrative of him being to old to run again would make hime look weak. I get it but christ you just won’t accept it. I’m not gonna argue with someone that uses logical fallacies to ignore reality. I’ve corrected my stance to align with reality I’m done trying to fix yours.

                  • Cryophilia@lemmy.world
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                    8 months ago

                    You have an idea of the answer you want.

                    We need a term for this rhetorical trick. The one where you pre-emptively accuse your opponent of doing what you’re doing. Although I think a lot of people do this subconsciously. You had an idea of what was true, that turned out to be wrong. That makes you feel hurt and frustrated, so you throw it at me.