Still, by itself, it didn’t change the political landscape!
What? You can’t just look at the operation by itself, you also must consider what led to that point and what happens after. You pointed out the impact Oct 7 had yourself.
These events do not happen in a vacuum and should not be considered so.
I agree! My point is: despite the low effectiveness of similar actions (self immolation as a form of protest) in the past, oct7 makes me hopeful that this self immolation case could spark some change, since it’s now reasonable to think that conditions may allow for larger implications in the core of imperialism.
I got the point you made here from your other comments and agree, but I guess what I’m missing is what is the point of arguing about the events individually accomplished?
Sure, they appear to us as discrete events, but even this event is tied to the events of Oct 7. It seems pointless to argue that any of these individual events has had relatively little impact on the status quo when they are all connected and the sum total of their impact will be what influences further events.
So what’s the point of arguing them individually aside from just finding something to argue about?
What? You can’t just look at the operation by itself, you also must consider what led to that point and what happens after. You pointed out the impact Oct 7 had yourself.
These events do not happen in a vacuum and should not be considered so.
We’re going full circle here.
I agree! My point is: despite the low effectiveness of similar actions (self immolation as a form of protest) in the past, oct7 makes me hopeful that this self immolation case could spark some change, since it’s now reasonable to think that conditions may allow for larger implications in the core of imperialism.
I got the point you made here from your other comments and agree, but I guess what I’m missing is what is the point of arguing about the events individually accomplished?
Sure, they appear to us as discrete events, but even this event is tied to the events of Oct 7. It seems pointless to argue that any of these individual events has had relatively little impact on the status quo when they are all connected and the sum total of their impact will be what influences further events.
So what’s the point of arguing them individually aside from just finding something to argue about?
It was a response to comrade arguing that this kind of protest is nonsense, and that some sabotaging should have been done.
It reminded me that at first sight, for me, the hamas attack also looked like a nonsense suicidal attack, but later we could make some sense of it.
I was trying to sustain that because oct7 wasn’t nonsense, maybe this case wasn’t either.
But I can agree some sabotaging would have been welcome. :)