I’m done, I’ve been banned for expressing a different opinion (without insulting or personally attacking anyone), I’ve been accused of evading a ban with multiple accounts (this is my only account I’ve ever had on any lemmy instance), I’ve had people selectively ignore my comments and accuse me of things which I never said, and I’ve had people ignore valid criticisms and keep attacking me.
Reddit has many issues with trolls, one-sided discussion, and just general bullshit, but many Lemmy instances are way worse. The newfound freedom of Lemmy has attracted many extremists, from both sides, and many of them are moderators, who are more than happy to remove any contrarian opinions. This results in discussions being echo chambers
You’re spot on correct. Lemmy has become a safe-haven for both tankies, and right-with trolls disguising themselves as tankies. And if you find yourself responding to some of their propaganda in the wrong community/instance…. It’s an insta-ban. No questions asked or answered. No appeal.
It’s as bad if not worse than Reddit, but there’s not as many bots here. So… it’s a 50/50.
What lemmy has going for it, is that it’s new. I consider it to be in the formative rebellious phase and I hope things even out and the hive starts to become more reasonable. As things seem, it’s slowly happening as more and more of the kids that whine and complain about bOtH siDeS and gEnOciDe jOe are being downvoted a lot more.
So there’s hope.
Ohhhh nooooo. Whatever will we do without your rationalization of genocide and blocking strikes?
The better question is, what will we do without your manufactured outrage?
Ive this one tagged as “Russian shill.” Theres a bunch of these whose primary purpose on lemmy seems to be spouting as much kremlin approved talking points as possible, often attempting so lowkey, all while projecting absolutely nonhuman levels of confidence. They typically show up with at least a couple alt accounts just to upvote all their “opinions,” and downvote dissenters.
I’ll bet I know who it is.
Are you saying everybody who voted for Biden in the 2020 general election is going to vote for him again? And if not where do you suppose those people are sharing their perspective?
characterizing their legitimate complaints as with manufactured or outrage is just a rhetorical device. it doesn’t address what they said at all.
Legitimate complaints? Where?
Blocking strikes and supporting genocide. Is this the first time you’re hearing those complaints?
this is just more rhetoric
Buddy, manufactured or not I’m not voting for Biden again. I’ll be voting 3rd party or write in. If you think Biden needs my vote to defeat Trump then you best get on Biden to start compromising with leftists and progressives.
It’s truly crazy to me how you all think that continuing to repeat the same tired arguments is going to change our minds. It won’t. It’s time to focus your energy on something that might have an effect. Try calling out moderates for refusing to compromise. Call Biden out for refusing to compromise.
Nope. I’ll be calling YOU out for crossing your arms and throwing away a vote. You KNOW 3rd party won’t win. It’s absolutely impossible at this point.
So what you do, is vote to keep the dictator out and buy us 4 more years to put together something better for everyone. Because this isn’t about YOU. It isn’t about what YOU want. There’s LGBTQ that’s going to get squashed if Trump wins. There’s women and their autonomy that’s going to get squashed if Trump wins. There’s Christian evangelicals that will be making LAWS… If Trump wins.
Get your head out of your ass and plug your Jose like the rest of us and keep Trump out of power.
Once that’s done, maybe start paying attention the remaining four years instead of waiting it out and only whining during election years.
The rest of us are trying to keep this ship floating for everyone. Either help out, or hop out.
Moderates are the major voting bloc of the Democrat party. They hold the lions share of the responsibility for how the candidate they chose in the 2020 primaries does in the general elections.
If Biden is going to continue to block strikes and support genocide I’m out. If you want my help then give us a seat at the table. Compromise on some policy decisions. If the only way you’re willing to try to keep the ship floating is by screaming at people to vote for someone who refuses to compromise with them you have nothing to offer.
How about you just fold your arms and keep pouting somewhere else while the rest of us try and keep you from under trumps thumb.
How about you compromise with leftists and progressives if you need their votes so badly?
Where are your candidates, where were they 9 months ago, a year ago? If you show up through a tantrum and don’t do any groundwork what do you expect to happen? You are either a useful idiot, a conservative shill, or an accelerationist.
I honesty can’t wait until all of you collectively shut up after the election is over. This happens every four years with Socialists/Marxists/Communists.
Every election year it’s constant whining, bad faith bullshit, and temper tantrums over sensationalized rhetoric.
After the election, it’s like suddenly- you all go find something else to whine about elsewhere. In 2016, and 2020, it was the Bernie Bros. You all VANISHED after both elections. No movements to make change, no grassroot movements… nothing.
… just vapor.
You won’t make change because you can’t be bothered to actually DO anything. And come November- poof!
Not voting for the lesser of two evils leaves room for the greater of two evils to take root
The people who voted for Biden in the 2020 primaries voted for the greater evil.
Shit post, or actually an honest opinion?
If that’s an honest opinion, what’s your reasoning?
Not trying to bust your balls or anything, just curious.
Biden is a strike blocking, genocide supporting procorporate piece of shit.
Ahh, sorry I misread where you specified “primaries” in your original statement. No real mystery there.
I thought it was originally pertaining to Trump vs Biden. My bad.
No worries sir :)