• Why do you think NATO support is waning? They’re staring to send fighter planes. The only cracks in the armor seem to be the upcoming US presidential election where the MAGA politicians seem to be pushing for surrender (using the same sick argument “to save Ukrainian lives”).

    NATO told him the deal ‘wasn’t going to fly’? NATO told him two things back then : a deal with Russia can’t be trusted (take that as you want, Georgia is proof of this as Russia is just jept pushing for more and more land, peace deal or not) and, much more important : NATO would support their defense until the end if they had to. Of course the surrendermonkeys hated this and try to paint this as ‘blocking a peace deal’.

    If the Ukrainian government can’t be trusted to decide on when to surrender, who do you suggest?

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      I’m at a loss as to how you’re interpreting my words. You say you’re asking simple questions, then you put words in my mouth and ask me to defend them.

      If the Ukrainian government can’t be trusted to decide on when to surrender, who do you suggest?

      When did I say or imply this?

      If you think saving Ukrainian lives isn’t a good reason to find an alternative to war, this is unlikely to become a fruitful discussion.

      • As long as Russia is unwilling to retreat (let alone pay reparations), you can’t just say “let’s find an alternative to war” without it seeming like a euphemism for Ukraine to surrender its territory.

        Which alternative do you propose where the killing ends and Russia doesn’t get to conquer their territory?