• Ainiriand@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    And exactly to prove your point I want to mention phone cases with a cutout so you can see the apple logo.

    • mojofrododojo@lemmy.world
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      9 months ago

      And the whole green / blue messages bullshit. Apple never misses an opportunity to remind it’s users they’re paying a premium and everyone else is a plebe.

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        9 months ago

        Or just which messages are SMS and which are an encrypted protocol. It was the users that turned that into a measure of status.

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          9 months ago

          Except Apple will the ones that refused to allow iMessage on Android so it’s absolutely about status.

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            9 months ago

            I don’t think it is good that they didn’t allow that but it seems non sequitur that means it is about status. I like to know if a message is sms or encrypted. Just like some jabber clients do for private messages. There should be some indication of the message status. And unless you can point to Apple indicating the intent of the colors is for social status and not an indication of protocol, I stand by that.

            And I know it is hard to cut through the “fuck Apple” narrative. But to me, they are just another one of many scumbag corporations. I just don’t see any evidence that the intent is social status. That was driven by conspicuous consumers.

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              9 months ago

              You missed the news, I guess.

              Apple fully admitted a few times that it was intentional. It was 100% an artificially created mechanism to polarize users, and bully them into Apple’s “ecosystem”.

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                9 months ago

                I didn’t miss that; that just isn’t what it says. Well it is what you say, but that’s not what I’m disagreeing with. I agree with you.

                iMessage on Android would simply serve to remove an obstacle to iPhone families giving their kids Android Phones.

                I’m not saying it isn’t a dirty business trick design to lock consumers in. It is. I’m saying it isn’t clear to me that it is designed as a social status issue. That was driven by a large group the users. Even still what this article is talking about is not having iMessage on android, which is not at all what I was disputing. I’m saying the colors serve a functional purpose. Not saying “only a functional purpose” but useful nevertheless.

                I won’t be surprised if android likewise distinguishes between sms and messages using the new protocol.

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                  9 months ago

                  so you just defend everything apple does but you agree it’s dirty bullshit.

                  nice! seems like you pick winners bud.

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                    9 months ago

                    This is truly a dizzying exchange. What I said was three things. The bubbles are designed to, at least in part, distinguish message protocol, the zealous conspicuous consumers are responsible for making it a status symbol, and not porting the system to android for vendor lock-in is a scummy process. I am really struggling to see me defend Apple in this case.

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      9 months ago

      Don’t they all? I’ve never looked for a case showing the logo, but every case I’ve ever had show it