• Glowstick@lemmy.world
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    Apparently she wrote in her private diary stuff like “I am evil for doing this” and “I am a horrible person for doing these things”. IMO this points more towards a massive mental health disorder rather than someone purposely doing evil acts to achieve their own selfish desires. It sounds like she had very unwanted intrusive impulses and she was unable to stop herself from acting on them.

    Don’t get me wrong, her being aware that her acts were wrong doesn’t give her a get out of jail pass. The awareness of her drives being wrong means the onus was on her to get help to prevent her from acting on those drives. But IMO it does make clear that there was no motive, it was likely caused by a compulsion mental illness. This is all IMO though.

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      The fact that she recognized how horrible the things she did was and didn’t immediately yeet herself off the roof just makes it worse

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            Leaving an internet comment and murdering double digit newborns is an interesting equivalence

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          Most mental illness doesn’t involve murdering anyone. I’d say Ms Murder Nurse is the one really not helping the stigma against mental illness.

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          You’re not helping the stigma against mental illness by automatically assuming she committed the murders as a result of it. You are not a psychologist, more importantly not her psychologist, so you do not have the authority to make that kind of a determination.

          Claiming she committed the murders because she is mentally ill is an ableist act.

          Being mentally ill doesn’t mean you’re going to murder anyone, certainly not babies.

          You’re ableist, and unempathetic.

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                It’s not fucking ableism. You’re jumping through hopps to invent shit the OP didn’t say just to have an argument. Get a grip.

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                  It absolutely is and you ought to be ashamed of yourself for defending it. The mentally ill are hurt deeply when you use stereotypes that they are violent, dangerous and lack agency to absolve evil monsters of their actions. What you’re doing is wrong and you need to stop.

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                    Bitch, I am the mentally ill, that’s not what he’s saying, I’m not offended by his comment because he’s not perpetuating the stereotype. It’s not offensesibe to say that some displaying clesr symptoms of mental illness is mentally ill.

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            That’s a false dichotomy. We can make things better for both.

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                The point is that if you destigmatize mental illness then she could’ve gotten help for herself AND as a result no babies would’ve been killed. Saying “she should’ve killed herself” at best will do nothing, and at worst will prevent other mentally ill people from getting help for themselves, AND thus will lead to more innocent people becoming their victims.

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                  That’s assuming she committed the murders out of mental illness, which is entirely baseless and an ableist claim to make.

                  You are here with a clear agenda and what you’re doing – undermining the seriousness and reprehensibility of her actions by labeling it as mental illness – is morally repugnant.

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                  After she killed the first one there’s no helping her. Offing herself and saving everyone the time and money of running her through the justice system and locking her up for the rest of her life IS the best thing she can do. The time to ask for help is BEFORE you murder someone’s child. If she’d done that I’d commend here.

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                    At a bare minimum you’re missing the point. The point is that what you’re saying is counterproductive to what you claim to want. Do you want to prevent similar incidents of mentally ill people hurting innocent people in the future? Then saying “she should’ve killed herself” has the opposite effect.