"Haley isn’t someone who will inspire an insurrection or who would deny the election," said a Democrat leading a campaign to get crossover votes for Haley.
Not to replay previous elections but seriously, if Hillary had visited just a few of the states she completely wrote off maybe she’d have gotten a couple vote there. I’m pretty left of center so I’ll vote my interests anyway but not even being worth a visit is a bit of a slap in the face to a whole lot of people who at least want to feel heard.
I’m not sure how you got me coming up with the hypothetical statement of “Hillary didn’t even come to Michigan, why would she care about us?” and think that it was about gestures when I literally said it was about a perception of lack of caring about them.
Flint was going through a water crisis (and still is). Hillary never went to Michigan. That would get some people in Flint to think she doesn’t care about them. Why wouldn’t it?
Having lived in a state that she didn’t visit, I’ve heard it mentioned more than once.
Is it logical and rational? Not necessarily, but people do want to feel heard and writing off huge swaths of the country because you didn’t need those states to win, simply targeting specific, winnable states to get the required electors). Is incredibly poor form and turns out was probably a mistake.
It exposed them for what they were and still are, out-of-touch, rich, milquetoast know-nothings looking down their noses at huge chunks of the population at best. At worst thinking because they’re born of a certain class they’re entitled to rule.
That you don’t know what Presidential candidates visit your state during an election is on you, pay more attention.
That you don’t know what Presidential candidates visit your state during an election is on you, pay more attention.
What difference would it make to me? What more would I learn?
Just as an example, imagine me, going my whole adult life thinking women deserve the right to determine what happens with their own bodies. What could, say, Trump possibly say in person to make me change my position on that? Would it be some amazing argument that I had never heard on TV or over the internet? How could that possibly move me on positions I hold, and therefore change my vote?
Not to replay previous elections but seriously, if Hillary had visited just a few of the states she completely wrote off maybe she’d have gotten a couple vote there. I’m pretty left of center so I’ll vote my interests anyway but not even being worth a visit is a bit of a slap in the face to a whole lot of people who at least want to feel heard.
I won’t say you’re wrong but how ridiculous is it that people need someone to come to their state to gain their vote?
Get the fuck over yourself.
Actually, I just decided if Joe doesn’t knock on my door himself he can forget about it.
It makes sense to me that people feel that way. “Hillary didn’t even come to Michigan, why would she care about us?”
No one is expecting Biden to knock on their door, but making the effort to show that their state counts does get people more likely to vote for him.
It makes sense to not vote to someone for lack of a gesture? I don’t think so.
And it is just a gesture because hearing the candidate speak in person doesn’t tell me anything more about them than what I can learn online.
Lack of a gesture? No. Lack of caring? Yes.
I’m not sure how you got me coming up with the hypothetical statement of “Hillary didn’t even come to Michigan, why would she care about us?” and think that it was about gestures when I literally said it was about a perception of lack of caring about them.
Flint was going through a water crisis (and still is). Hillary never went to Michigan. That would get some people in Flint to think she doesn’t care about them. Why wouldn’t it?
Yes, to them, I can see how some might think that.
I also think those people are ridiculous. I wouldn’t have even known if Clinton came to my state if it weren’t for threads like this.
Having lived in a state that she didn’t visit, I’ve heard it mentioned more than once.
Is it logical and rational? Not necessarily, but people do want to feel heard and writing off huge swaths of the country because you didn’t need those states to win, simply targeting specific, winnable states to get the required electors). Is incredibly poor form and turns out was probably a mistake.
It exposed them for what they were and still are, out-of-touch, rich, milquetoast know-nothings looking down their noses at huge chunks of the population at best. At worst thinking because they’re born of a certain class they’re entitled to rule.
That you don’t know what Presidential candidates visit your state during an election is on you, pay more attention.
What difference would it make to me? What more would I learn?
Just as an example, imagine me, going my whole adult life thinking women deserve the right to determine what happens with their own bodies. What could, say, Trump possibly say in person to make me change my position on that? Would it be some amazing argument that I had never heard on TV or over the internet? How could that possibly move me on positions I hold, and therefore change my vote?
Do you see how fucking crazy that sounds?