• AntiOutsideAktion [he/him]@hexbear.net
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          How is human society organized? What do humans do? They create things and they consume things. What is politics? It is deciding who in a society resources are taken from and what they applied to.

          Why do you draw a line between these things? Especially as a socialist who presumably wants to bring democracy to the workplace?

        • Egon [they/them]@hexbear.net
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          But you live in a world that does, and therefore you are forced to relate to it wether or not you believe in it.
          It does not matter what you believe in, what.matters is the material reality in which we all exist

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      Communism is most definitely a political system as it has an inherent system of power relations, representation of workers, ownership of the means of production by the workers themselves, and distribution of decisions among the people until the state can be dissolved. Internationalism is a huge part of communism as is real politik, historical materialism, and other political approaches.

      What I don’t understand is what you mean by authoritarian? Do you mean a literal dictatorship like in Latin America? I don’t know if a single communist country that has not had better representation than the USA as far as voting goes. I guess maybe the Khmer Rouge (I don’t know anything beyond Wikipedia for that one)?

      • meth_dragon [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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        authoritarianism is when you do things and get results, the more results you get the more authoritarian it is

        true democracy is when so much nothing is happening that everyone is stochastically dissolving into elementary particles like it’s the heat death of the universe

    • CriticalResist8@lemmygrad.ml
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      Communism is indissociable from its three components, which includes a political system: dialectical materialism (the philosophical part), the labour theory of value (the economic part), and the class struggle (the social thus political part).

      Anything other than Marxism is ineffectual in the real world and leads to nothing as exemplified by 200 years of history. “Tankies” don’t “happen” to have an economic theory, it’s an integral part to the whole of Marxism and Marxism could not exist without the economic basis for it. Why do we dislike capitalism? Because through math we can prove it is rife with contradictions and invariably leads to imperialism. Otherwise why would we want communism? Just because it’s cool to be a communist? Just because it’s a hobby? There has to be an actual justification for what we want.

    • SootySootySoot [any]@hexbear.net
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      I appreciate the attempt to engage in discussion about it, but it is an interesting position. Do you not think your position directly competes with assertions from The Communist Manifesto, or State and Revolution, or most communist texts?