• lingh0e@lemmy.world
    110·
    1 year ago

    I can’t wait to be one of the “I was part of the great Reddit migration” dudes when this lemmy stuff inevitably goes tits up in 15 years.

  • snor10@lemm.ee
    812·
    1 year ago

    While I agree with the worry concerning corporations joining, I don’t really mind “normal” people joining though.

    That being said, this is an incorrect use of the meme. The text on the two bottom panels are supposed to stay the same.

    Sorry if I’m being pedantic.

    • mino@lemmy.mlOP
      21·
      1 year ago

      We sure have arrived at panel 2 indeed. If it works better for your mind consider it a completely new meme template that happens to have the same visual outline, because this meme communicates exactly what I want to communicate :)

  • Bongles@lemm.ee
    59·
    1 year ago

    The neat part is they really can’t fuck it up. You can always run your own instance and defederate from a corporation causing problems. Eventually we’ll be getting the feature to block entire instances too so you won’t have to rely on your admin making that choice either.

      • pruwyben@discuss.tchncs.de
        2·
        1 year ago

        So companies fucked up the internet, and people had to make a new internet inside the internet. And when companies fuck that up too, we’ll make a new internet inside that one!

    • Kraiden@kbin.social
      31·
      1 year ago

      Easy. ~~Ban~~ Defederate every company.

      FTFY. It’s FOSS. We can’t stop them from spinning up their own instances (See: Threads) but that doesn’t mean we have to play nicely with them.

      Edit: Fuck it, I can’t get the ~~strikethrough~~ to work.

  • Raphael@lemmy.world
    284·
    1 year ago

    That’s why we need to abolish private ownership, all corporations must be collectively owned by the community.

  • blazera@kbin.social
    20·
    1 year ago

    Corporation owns reddit, owns twitter, owns meta, owns twitch and youtube.

    Corporation cant own fediverse. Corporate interests could take over lemmy.world, or any other instance, but that doesnt give them the fediverse. They can block outside users from coming in, they can block inside users from going out, but they cant block outside users from eachother

      • Kes@lemmy.blahaj.zone
        1·
        1 year ago

        Google was only able to do that because XMPP’s userbase was practically nonexistent by the time they pulled the plug. Google Talk had become such a hegemon that the overwhelming majority of XMPP interactions were between Google Talk users. Google had the option to keep tying themselves to a protocol that they don’t own to support access to a very small amount of users or develop their own system that they could do whatever they want with. Lemmy and Mastodon do not have that issue. Regardless of what Facebook does with Threads, Mastodon has millions of users and Lemmy reached over 300k. The majority of their users are unlikely to migrate their accounts over just to sell their souls to the Zucc. There is enough activity on Lemmy and Mastodon that many Threads users may make seperate accounts here should Threads eventually defederate, while the users of Lemmy and Mastodon simply go back to an existence without Facebook’s meddling. There’s not a situation where Threads can destroy Lemmy or Mastodon like there was with XMPP

  • dreadedsemi@lemmy.world
    10·
    1 year ago

    Don’t be surprised if corporations bought out instances or whole development teams. Good thing new Inatances can be launched and the community can always fork the code and continue work.

  • OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml
    135·
    1 year ago

    I hate to say it, but the vibe has gotten a lot more Reddit-y over the last couple months. Lemmy used to be a lot more controversial, and not afraid to show it

    • mino@lemmy.mlOP
      212·
      1 year ago

      I kind of like that tbh. I have identified as an anarchist/communist for over 25 years and even I thought the content at Lemmy was too much of a downer to be around too much.

      The point is not the content per se, the point is nobody has any other incentive than to have a good time and share. Instead of the basic human desire to be social constantly being exploited for shiny fucking coins by robots and or psychopaths.

      You pick the communities you like. Diversity is key.

      • Caradoc879@lemmy.world
        72·
        1 year ago

        I’m not sure if it’s brigading or if reddit was just better at hiding them, but I’m seeing a lot of alt-right, fuck-the-libs hate. Any of the current posts about the student loan forgiveness for example. So so many bad faith, tone-deaf arguments of “why should I pay for your loans” or “those lazy deadbeats just don’t want to pay”. It almost feels organzied.

        • Ragnell@kbin.social
          101·
          1 year ago

          Looking back on previous floods of alt-right hate… If it feels organized, it probably is.

        • GizmoLion@kbin.social
          41·
          1 year ago

          It’s because here downvotes don’t push you to the bottom of the stack, and that needs to change. At least on Reddit you could bury the trolls.

          • Cabrio@lemmy.world
            11·
            1 year ago

            Nah, don’t hide the trash, let them be a public example and berate and shame them. Ban them if they get too rowdy. Society breeds civility through cowardice, stop being afraid to tell these people what you think, don’t be offended; offence is taken not given, be offensive, berate their stupidity and ignorance, insult their lack of cognizance and competence, flex your belligerence in the face of theirs, call them on their bullshit and be fucking relentless.

            Be a dick to an asshole; save a pussy.

            • GizmoLion@kbin.social
              1·
              1 year ago

              Bruh I’m just trying to scroll through interesting posts and interact with people worth having a discussion with. If you get off putting people in their place all day then feel free to sort by lowest score or whatever mechanism eventually appears.

              If you want to change someone’s mind you aren’t going to do it by putting them on the spot and belittling them for it. That just backs a person into the corner and makes them double down. The whole “I’d rather be Russian than Democrat” is perfect example of this.

              If you want to make them change their ways then just ignore their desperate pleas for attention. Kids don’t earn the right to sit at the grown up table by acting like kids, but eventually they mature and learn nuance and that earns them a seat.

              • Cabrio@lemmy.world
                11·
                1 year ago

                I can’t help it if you want to contribute willingly to conversations you don’t want to be a part of, sounds fucking stupid to me,which we’ve already determined multiple times you are, and continue to prove by not being able to check your ego long enough to dissuade yourself from continuing to reply. I don’t mind if it takes you a long time to learn a lesson, no skin off my nose to educate a belligerent, I was born for this.

                • GizmoLion@kbin.social
                  21·
                  1 year ago

                  If you think using big words and calling people childish names is making a coherent argument then there’s really nothing to be done here…

                  I didn’t say I didn’t want to contribute willingly, I said I didn’t want to spend my time engaging trolls and unsavory individuals. I’d rather they fade into obscurity and get on about my day.

                  Go ahead and reread it if you need proof, it’s all up there.

  • DannyMac@lemmy.world
    91·
    1 year ago

    I hope not. I remember a time in which you needed to know something in order to enjoy the Internet and I kinda hope this place remains less approachable by normies, but attractive to those who love technology. I feel this is like how IRC was in the 90s.

  • Pixlbabble@lemm.ee
    7·
    1 year ago

    I just wouldn’t use a corporate server. This here is more like old internet before the likes of google started to buy everything and consolidate the internet. Running a single server is not the same as a server farm in multiple countries.

      • Pixlbabble@lemm.ee
        3·
        1 year ago

        I started on lemme.world but it’s been getting hammered so I made a backup account on lemm.ee Yes when your feed is on local is the server you are on and all is all servers. It gets weirder though because you will also see posts from defederated servers, we can still comment like normal on them too but that server itself that’s defederated the people on that server will not be communicating with the rest of the federation.

          • Pixlbabble@lemm.ee
            1·
            1 year ago

            Sort of yes but it’s the communications that change they all can see whats on all servers but their server is only commenting with themselves or whom they are federated with. I’m still new to this as well and I believe this is how it works. But I know there’s something that has to do with the content being a copy across other servers, that part I’m still iffy on lol.

  • NutWrench@lemmy.ml
    6·
    1 year ago

    In order to screw up Lemmy, corporations would have to take over 1300 or so Instances, scattered in different countries all over the world.

    The second they screwed up the most popular Instance(s), folks would just move to other Instances and they could defederate from the corporate ones.