• Spzi@lemm.ee
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      No single human activity has a bigger impact on the planet than the production of food

      A provocative claim which is not supported by the link. It goes on to talk about other thing, which cannot show the claim is true, if it is. For example, while the following sentence might be true, it does not show wether the initial claim was true:

      The production of animal-based foods—particularly beef—is responsible for about half of the food system’s greenhouse gas emissions. 
      

      Because both talk about different things. I couldn’t find that July 5, 2022, Boston Globe article to check.

      The production of food (even in the most sustainable ways) probably still is a good bet, simply because it requires so much land, and more.

      Though not sure how it fares against “trade”, or the extraction and burning of fossil fuels.

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      We could also half the population and have the same result.

      Property would become more affordable as well.

      Win win

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        Well, don’t be so harsh. If we only decimate developed countries’ populations, Russia and China, we can have the same or more impact with relatively few people. Most African people wouldn’t make any difference, why go after half of them?

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      Well you shouldn’t say “These bad bad companies are solely responsible for the climate change, I don’t need to do anything because in relation it doesn’t matter anyway.” But that’s about it. Companies and rich/powerful people are the main reason for the climate change. Just take the “carbon footprint idea” created by oil companies in the 60s to shift their responsibility to others. Big companies know what they’re doing. Additionally, don’t underestimate marketing and advertising. They have the power to create more “needs”. You may be proud of your goals in restricting yourself and you should be! But the world can’t be saved when every consumer is doing their best while companies doing what they’re always doing. I don’t wanna say capitalism is completely bad, we just need an advanced long term focused version of it.

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      As someone who has a large dog with cancer, I don’t know how I could possibly manage her condition if I didn’t have a personal vehicle without it being insanely burdensome. So many appointments and pharmacy visits.

      You don’t have to get rid of your car. You just have to not use it overly much. And no, this isn’t an extremely niche case; tons of people have pets and they get sick. And of course humans get sick. I could be having the same problem with a child instead of a dog.

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        Sorry about your dog. But your example only highlights a tabu issue in these discussions, the negative impact that having a pet has. They consume meat, packaged food, are driven around, attack wild fauna (cats especially) etc. Pets is one of the items everyone should cut, but they’re only becoming more common, like SUVs.

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          Dogs evolved alongside humans. You’re never going to convince people to give them up.

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        I don’t know your personal situation, but in my city there are lots of car share schemes that are cheap and easy.

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      I love how corporations are pretending to be people and trying to put the blame on everyone else by turning around proven, logical facts about climate change. It’s absolutely pathetic. Get this lying garbage out of here. Shameful.

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      In this drama, governments and states are the actors. The problem is not corporations, the problem is states allowing corporations to rule them, false democracies like Russia and the USA, or not democracies at all like China. You going vegan it’s good for you, I guess.

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    The common and successful counter-argument to that is consumers saying “DON’T TELL ME WHAT TO DOOOOOOOOOOOOOO” and making that as moral of a stand as they can pretend it can be and there being enough of them around (and a ruling class that benefits) to legislatively prevent any changes.