• pete_the_cat@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    My dad is 74 and is a climate change denier, it’s maddening. He says he doesn’t deny that it’s happening, but doesn’t think that industrialization and cars are the reason, but it’s a cycle the planet goes through every few thousand years 🤦‍♂️ He cites The Ice Age as proof of these long-term climate shifts and says we don’t have climate records from anything beyond like 150 or so years ago so it’s all conjecture.

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        3 months ago

        Only to have them ‘question’ the data without elaborating on why it’s bad data.

        I work with a Trumper who also denies climate change, he outright declined my offer to put together evidence for him regarding climate change. These people are too old to give a shit, unfortunately.

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        My 70 year old dad is also in denial. Keeps saying it’s summer and always hot, but complaining about it lasting for 3-4 weeks this far and we’re only mid-July. Then said a week long below average streak would would help because that’s how you get average temps.

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          They live in NJ and I moved to Miami back in October, it’s been practically the same temperature in both places (for those not in the US, Miami is subtropical, New Jersey is 1300 miles north and has a coastal climate) for about the past month. The only difference is that it’s about 10-20% more humid down here in Florida. The “Real Feel” is always within a few degrees though. For a few days here and there it’s been hotter in NJ.

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      Maybe mention the fact that this recent alarming jump is very likely due to us doing accidental geo-engineering for the last 80 years and we’ve only just stopped it.

      We finally banned sulfur-laden bunker fuel globally for shipping last year. Dirtiest fuel in the world basically, all the left over crud from refineries straight into your cargo ship’s engine. Sounds like a good environmental move but, oh shit, guess what? Those sulfur aerosols the ships were pumping into the atmosphere worldwide were actually keeping surface temperatures down.

      Climate scientists were shitting themselves over the temperature jump until someone made the connection. They’re still shitting themselves over it now, but at least it’s an explainable jump now.

      It’s proof that fairly “trivial” changes by humans can have measurable effects on climate.

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      The fucked thing is he is half right. The earth DOES have cycles, and we are currently in an inter glacial period.

      The thing is that we’ve royally fucked those warming and cooling cycles. The earth isn’t going to cool back down due to runaway greenhouse effects from all that extra carbon coming from cars, industrial complexes and general pollution. That’s really a simplified version but makes the point I think. Maybe someone more educated on the topic can further explain though.

      I REALLY it hate when conman convince parts of the population with half truths that sound convincing because they read two lines on a Wikipedia page.

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      So if it’s all a cycle, ask your dad when we get dinosaurs again? Also, when will the continents grow together again? And if he says that’s different, ask why the earth can change continuously and the weather has to stay the same.

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    Sunday’s average air surface temperature soared to 17.09°C… it was nearly 3°C higher than the pre-2023 record, set at 16.8°C on August 13, 2016.

    Editing missed a decimal point in the opening paragraph. It’s nearly 0.3C above the pre-2023 record.

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    Weirdest part is these claimed records only break on northern hemisphere summers….

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        Ahhh, so the event that wiped out nearly all life on earth wasn’t the hottest day. It’s like saying dinosaurs didn’t exist because we didn’t record it.

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          No, it’s saying that the article is referring to recorded human history, because that’s what’s actually relevant.

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      3 months ago

      What tempatures do we have on record from pre-historic times?